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From: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
To: Norman Wilson <norman@oclsc.org>
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] SDB debugger
Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 19:41:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200503024116.GE9534@mcvoy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200503022104.181B54422F@lignose.oclsc.org>

On Sat, May 02, 2020 at 10:21:04PM -0400, Norman Wilson wrote:
> I wish it was as easy for others to have such
> satisfaction these days.

Amen to that.  I think we all lived, you Bell Labs people especially,
in a simpler time.  We were trying to fit into 64K, split I/D 128K,
my Z80 was 64K but some extra for graphics, then the VAX came and we
were trying for 1MB, Suns with 4MB.

So small mattered a lot and that meant the Unix philosophy of do one
thing and do it well worked quite nicely.

What that also meant, to people coming on a little bit after, was that
it was relatively easy to modify stuff, the stuff was not that complex.

Even I had an easy time, my prime was back at Sun when SunOS was a
uniprocessor OS.  That is dramatically simpler than a fully threaded
SMP OS that has support for TCP offloading, NUMA, etc, etc.

I really don't know how systems people do it these days, it is a
much more complex world.

So I'm with Norm, it was fun back in the day to be able to come in
and have a big impact.  I too wish that it was as easy for young
people to come in and have that impact.  I've done that and it was
awesome, these days, I have no idea how I'd make a difference.

--lm

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-03  2:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-03  2:21 Norman Wilson
2020-05-03  2:41 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2020-05-03  7:14   ` arnold
2020-05-03  3:05 ` Rob Pike
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-02  2:52 Doug McIlroy
2020-05-02 17:45 ` Larry McVoy
2020-05-03 16:16   ` Rich Morin
2020-05-12  4:36     ` Dave Horsfall
2020-05-01 20:48 Paul Ruizendaal
2020-05-01 21:57 ` Clem Cole
2020-05-02  9:10   ` Paul Ruizendaal
2020-05-02 16:04     ` Clem Cole
2020-05-01 23:05 ` Jeremy C. Reed
2020-05-02  0:49 ` Noel Hunt
2020-05-02  1:22   ` Rob Pike
2020-05-02  3:49     ` Noel Hunt
2020-05-02 20:16   ` Paul Ruizendaal
2020-05-03  6:58     ` arnold
2020-05-03 16:13     ` Clem Cole
2020-05-03 16:53       ` Henry Bent
2020-05-03 17:06         ` Henry Bent
2020-05-03 17:13       ` Henry Bent
2020-05-03 20:26         ` Clem Cole
2020-05-03 17:35       ` Paul Winalski
2020-05-03 21:27       ` Paul Ruizendaal
2020-05-12  4:15 ` Dave Horsfall

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