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From: Doug McIlroy <doug@cs.dartmouth.edu>
To: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: Re: [TUHS] v7 K&R C [really lexers]
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 09:55:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202006141355.05EDt5YM067818@tahoe.cs.Dartmouth.EDU> (raw)

Interesting. My "speak" program had a trivial lexer that
recognized literal tokens, many of which were prefixes
of others, by maximum-munch binary search in a list of
1600 entries. Entries gave token+translation+rewrite.
The whole thing fit in 15K.

Many years later I wrote a regex recognizer that special-cased
alternations of lots of literals. I believe Gnu's regex.c does
that, too. (My regex also supported conjunction and negation--
legitimate regular-language operations--implemented by
continuation-passing to avoid huge finite-state machines.)

We have here a case of imperfect communication in 1127. Had I
been conscious of the lex-explosion problem, I might have
thought of speak and put support for speak-like tables
into lex. As it happened, I only used yacc/lex once, quite
successfully, for a small domain-specific language. 

Doug

Steve Johnson wrote:

I also gave up on lex for parsing fairly early.   The problem was
reserved words.  These looked like identifiers, but the state machine to
pick out a couple of dozen reserved words out of all identifiers was too
big for the PDP-11.   When I wrote spell, I ran into the same problem.
I had some rules that wanted to convert plurals to singular forms that
would be found in the dictionary.   Writing a rule to recognize .*ies
and convert the "ies" to "y" blew out the memory after only a handful of
patterns.   My solution was to pick up words and reverse them before
passing them through lex, so I looked for the pattern "sei.*", converted
it to "y" and then reversed the word again.  As it turned out, I only
owned spell for a few weeks because Doug and others grabbed it and ran
with it.

             reply	other threads:[~2020-06-14 13:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-14 13:55 Doug McIlroy [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-17  2:07 Nelson H. F. Beebe
2020-05-11  0:32 [TUHS] v7 K&R C Rob Pike
2020-05-11  0:57 ` Larry McVoy
2020-05-11 17:32   ` Greg A. Woods
2020-05-11 18:25     ` Paul Winalski
2020-05-11 18:37       ` Clem Cole
2020-05-11 19:12         ` Paul Winalski
2020-05-11 19:57           ` joe mcguckin
2020-05-11 20:25             ` Larry McVoy
2020-05-12 17:23               ` Paul Winalski
2020-05-13 23:36                 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-05-14 17:32                   ` Larry McVoy
2020-05-14 22:32                     ` Tony Finch
2020-05-16 23:53                       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-05-16 23:59                         ` [TUHS] v7 K&R C [really lexers] Jon Steinhart
2020-05-17  0:04                           ` Brantley Coile
2020-05-17  1:23                             ` Warner Losh
2020-05-17  1:36                               ` Brantley Coile
2020-06-13 21:24                               ` scj
2020-06-14  8:47                                 ` arnold
2020-06-14 12:52                                 ` Richard Salz
2020-06-14 14:03                                   ` Ralph Corderoy
2020-06-14 14:26                                     ` arnold
2020-06-14 14:48                                       ` Ralph Corderoy
2020-06-15  1:12                                         ` Warren Toomey
2020-06-15  1:29                                           ` Warren Toomey
2020-06-15  6:06                                             ` arnold
2020-05-17 16:31                           ` Paul Winalski

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