From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 5363 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2020 22:52:59 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 14 Jun 2020 22:52:59 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 993B29C71C; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 08:52:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6767A9C24C; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 08:52:11 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1592175165; bh=GtIJcwdTZ+KJN0ADeJPvMNEj1hisRs3PgnJs0OihBbE=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:List-Id:List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive: List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe:From; b=3btr0hNTtKiity6Qidhe+muieWgAMYzWRRJD+tlyGdiJD1X0R29n2vAFHZ9RImxz8 7qCDsy7UbUHa8vY0OMxL/eKH9chdgAwBMWx/QUajjP3iIaxJWsQSuFAFB6a1ELD0Ue XeLR0ywdOwWroNd12JL21ZXgdHdgy9RK/rlCW+ao= Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5FDF59C246; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 08:52:08 +1000 (AEST) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 08:52:08 +1000 From: Warren Toomey To: tuhs@tuhs.org Message-ID: <20200614225208.GB6122@minnie.tuhs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) Subject: [TUHS] Fwd: Origins and life of the pg pager X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" All, I just received this e-mail from a non-TUHS list member. If you have an answer for Michael, could you reply to him and pop a cc here as well? Thanks, Warren ----- Forwarded message from Michael Siegel ----- Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 16:37:59 +0200 From: Michael Siegel To: wkt@tuhs.org Subject: Origins and life of the pg pager Hi there, I'm trying to find out where the pg pager originated. The research I've done so far vaguely suggests it came with one of the System V versions, though Internet claims it to be “the name of the historical utility on BSD UNIX systems” occasionally.[1] I think System V because the source code of pg.c in the util-linux package says that this utility is “a clone of the System V CRT paging utility.”[2] I'd also like to find out when pg was discarded and if it ever made it into POSIX before that. Linux still has pg to the very day, but none of the current major BSDs (Free/Net/Open) offer it. POSIX 2001, 2004 Edition lists it as an excluded utility.[3] I've not been able to get the text of any prior POSIX documents. It seems they aren't freely available. Any ideas on how to proceed? Best Michael [1] This one's from Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pg_(Unix)), but I've also found other sites stating the same. [2] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/utils/util-linux/util-linux.git/tree/text-utils/pg.c [3] https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009696899/xrat/xcu_chap04.html ----- End forwarded message -----