From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 7450 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2020 09:55:01 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 Jul 2020 09:55:01 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 49DE29BA90; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 19:55:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897109BA30; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 19:54:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 353B49BA30; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 19:54:01 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 429 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 19:53:58 AEST Received: from lb3-smtp-cloud7.xs4all.net (lb3-smtp-cloud7.xs4all.net [194.109.24.31]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93D459BA2A for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 19:53:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: from cust-27e06a8f ([IPv6:fc0c:c122:908c:cb8e:3cc1:64e8:cd54:9bbd]) by smtp-cloud7.xs4all.net with ESMTPA id xSNhjh276yPEdxSNij7hln; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:46:47 +0200 Received: from arno by mail.ancienthardware.org with local (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1jxSNk-00084j-4P for tuhs@tuhs.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:46:48 +0200 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:46:48 +0200 From: Arno Griffioen To: tuhs@tuhs.org Message-ID: <20200720094648.GE15253@ancienthardware.org> References: <20200717195718.GM18565@mcvoy.com> <77c0536b-87b8-44dd-96fd-76d8ceba30f2@localhost> <2135afdb-db52-05d2-9af6-24ad36367db3@tnetconsulting.net> <40a70393-894a-4b21-8678-a71bbca4aa69@localhost> <8e7efd45-a84e-cf20-9d30-8222357596a3@tnetconsulting.net> <202007200847.06K8l8DF026646@freefriends.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <202007200847.06K8l8DF026646@freefriends.org> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfO6XRru1DQOXIQ4dg/KLkoxx79fpIQ6kW/e2oLD0I9pjXQKJ6pfjkL/8gSolSsCiUispBdlniniFgrvivZSWx7X59Ce4EWIeIqLj5JLVzTizuV/Uv69D OrEIaom8M94NZQN3HwSGGhZHajYZ+ZEPOyNumPLVDS6tsh7MvXmXuW6HtH13VkypfTD4zuofht1vCQ== Subject: Re: [TUHS] A/UX [was Linux is on-topic] X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 02:47:08AM -0600, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: > ISTR that A/UX was nothing special as a Unix. Am I failing to remember? No, that's absolutely true. It was a fairly plain-jane SVR2.2 with some back-ported bits from SVR3 (and perhaps some SVR4?), mostly for networking and filesystem work. However, it's an interesting setup in the fact how it ran the a normal MacOS instance basically 'virtualised' next to it and allowed some limited interaction between the two. Also the Mac IIfx was basically desgined and built for AU/X and had on-board hardware that was way over-specced for plain MacOS. The hardware really was more UNIX workstation than Mac. Eg. it had full DMA support on most I/O and such.. Unheard of on simpler macs and not even used by MacOS of the day which simply ignored that an ran everything in PIO mode happily. Mid 90's I did a number of UUCP and (Send)Mail, Usenet, etc. setups on these and by some creative interaction with the MacOS side and clients it allowed the 'Mac ecosystem' LAN and software of the day to send and receive 'internet' mail and such. (leased lines in Europe were very, very expensive and slow until the late 90's and early 00's so UUCP and dailup was quite common for a long time for small businesses..) It was a time that Apple engineers were really making some strides to kickstart a change to a *IX based multitasking MacOS, but it all fizzled out as A/UX was never succesful and Apple at the time was not in the best of spots finance-wise. As such, it's an 'interesting oddball' in UNIX history IMHO, but not from a viewpoint of having brought anything new or revolutionary to the table that has stuck around. Bye, Arno.