From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 9376 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2020 06:03:45 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 23 Jul 2020 06:03:45 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 073549C903; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:03:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719049C8AD; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:02:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1A0749C8AD; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:02:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36CB493D09 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:02:07 +1000 (AEST) X-Envelope-From: arnold@skeeve.com Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 06N624D1013100 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 23 Jul 2020 00:02:05 -0600 Received: (from arnold@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 06N6243i013099; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 00:02:04 -0600 From: arnold@skeeve.com Message-Id: <202007230602.06N6243i013099@freefriends.org> X-Authentication-Warning: frenzy.freefriends.org: arnold set sender to arnold@skeeve.com using -f Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 00:02:04 -0600 To: wkt@tuhs.org, scj@yaccman.com References: <20200711203020.GA1884@minnie.tuhs.org> <03a8a0a84960ca40be4ea04b5cd1d780@yaccman.com> In-Reply-To: <03a8a0a84960ca40be4ea04b5cd1d780@yaccman.com> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [TUHS] Technical decisions based on political considerations [was Re: AT&T Research] X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" scj@yaccman.com wrote: > The technical people I met all seemed > competent -- it must be the management that was the difference... I saw this *a lot* when I worked at Intel; being forced to use the wrong tools for software development because of political considerations instead of technical ones. One of the reasons I was super glad to leave there and why I think that Intel as a whole will never make it as a software company. (There are pockets there that understand software, but the majority of the company does not.) Sorry, Arnold