From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 11660 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2020 16:56:00 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Aug 2020 16:56:00 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7EC169C1D0; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 02:55:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9047D9C1AF; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 02:55:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 356959C1AF; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 02:55:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD2CB9C1AD for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 02:55:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 11178) id 740A418C097; Thu, 6 Aug 2020 12:55:19 -0400 (EDT) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Message-Id: <20200806165519.740A418C097@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 12:55:19 -0400 (EDT) From: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Subject: Re: [TUHS] v7, adb, and fcreat X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" > From: Will Senn > I don't think adb was in v6, where the fcreat function and buf struct > are used... Were Maranzano and Bourne using some kind of hybrid 6+ system? In addition to the point about skew between the released and internal development, it's worth remembering just how long it was between the V6 and V7 releases, and how much ground was covered technically during that period. A lot of that stuff leaked out: we've talked about the upgraded 'Typesetter C' (and compilers), which a lot of people had, and the V6+ system at MIT (partially sort of PWB1) had both 'adb' and the stdio library. The latter also made its way to lots of places; in my 'improved V6 page': http://www.chiappa.net/~jnc/tech/ImprovingV6.html it talks about finding the standard I/O stuff in several later V6 repositories, including a UNSW tape. But it and typsetter C, also on the Shoppa pack, were clearly quite widespread. Noel