From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 26216 invoked from network); 6 Aug 2020 19:26:07 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Aug 2020 19:26:07 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 6A5A09C1D7; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 05:26:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF1C9C1CE; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 05:25:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A84A39C1CE; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 05:25:25 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EAF39C1C7 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 05:25:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 11178) id 5774D18C08E; Thu, 6 Aug 2020 15:25:23 -0400 (EDT) To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Message-Id: <20200806192523.5774D18C08E@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 15:25:23 -0400 (EDT) From: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Subject: Re: [TUHS] v7, adb, and fcreat X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" > From: Will Senn > it finally clicked that it is just one (of many) bit buckets out there > with the moniker v6. ... I am coming from a world where OS version > floppy/cd/dvd images are copies of a single master ... These tape things > could be snapshots of the systems they originate from at very different > times and with different software/sources etc. Well, sort of. Do remember that everyone with V6 had to have a license, which at that point you could _only_ get from Western Electric. So every _institution_ (which is not the same as every _machine_) had had to have had dealings with them. However, once your institution was 'in the club', stuff just got passed around. E.g. the BBN V6 system with TCP/IP: https://www.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=BBN-V6 I got that by driving over to BBN, and talking to Jack Haverty, and he gave us a tape (or maybe a pack, I don't recall exactly). But we had a V6 license, so we could do that. But my particular machine, it worked just the way you described: we got our V6 from the other V6 machine in the Tech Sq building (RTS/DSSR), including not only Bell post-V6 'leakage' like adb, but their local hacks (e.g. their TTY driver, and the ttymod() system call to get to its extended features; the ability to suspend selected applications; yadda, yadda). We never saw a V6 tape. Noel