From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 5191 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2020 14:02:59 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Aug 2020 14:02:59 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 5D8889B69B; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 00:02:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1142E9B5D6; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 00:02:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id CEB119B5D6; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 00:02:17 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FEE39B5C7 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2020 00:02:17 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 11178) id 47CB418C082; Mon, 10 Aug 2020 10:02:16 -0400 (EDT) To: tuhs@tuhs.org Message-Id: <20200810140216.47CB418C082@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2020 10:02:16 -0400 (EDT) From: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Subject: Re: [TUHS] BTL summer employees X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" > From: Lars Brinkhoff > I haven't investigated it thoroughly, but I do see a file .DOVR.;.SPOOL > 8 written in C by Eliot Moss. > ... > When sending to the DOVER, the spooler waits until Spruce is > free before sending another file. Ah, so there was a spooler on the ITS machine as well; I didn't know/remember that. I checked on CSR, and it did use TFTP to send it to the Alto spooler: HOST MIT-SPOOLER, LCS 2/200,SERVER,TFTPSP,ALTO,[SPOOLER] I vaguely recall the Dover being named 'Spruce', but that name wasn't in the host table... I have this vague memory that 'MIT-Spooler' was the Alto which prove the Dover, but now that I think about it, it might have been another one (which ran only TFTP->EFTP spooler software). IIRC the Dover as a pain to run, it required a very high bit rate, and the software to massage it was very tense; so it may have made sense to do the TFTP->EFTP (I'm pretty sure the vanilla Dover spoke EFTP, but maybe I'm wrong, and it used the PUP stream protocol) in another machine. It'd be interesting to look at the Dover spooler on ITS, and see if/how one got to the CHAOS network from C - and if so, how it identified the protocol translating box. Noel