From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 15121 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2020 01:48:03 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 13 Aug 2020 01:48:03 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4AB209CAC9; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 11:48:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADEA944AA; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 11:47:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E518693D6A; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 11:47:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A78793D06 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 11:47:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 7C59E35E13B; Wed, 12 Aug 2020 18:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 18:47:20 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Dave Horsfall Message-ID: <20200813014720.GP21027@mcvoy.com> References: <8e7efd45-a84e-cf20-9d30-8222357596a3@tnetconsulting.net> <202007200847.06K8l8DF026646@freefriends.org> <20200720094648.GE15253@ancienthardware.org> <20200801013605.GG10778@mcvoy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] A/UX [was Linux is on-topic] X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" You liked SMIT, it seems, I am among a large swath of people who did not. The SMIT I had did *not* show you what files it was editing and I ran SMIT on 1GB main memory powerpcs. I think it was AIX 4.something. Maybe it got better but it was awful for me. On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 10:00:09AM +1000, Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Fri, 31 Jul 2020, Larry McVoy wrote: > > >On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 07:12:57PM -0400, Richard Salz wrote: > >>>SMIT was quite nice [ context seemingly removed ] > >> > >>i have never seen those four words together like that before. > > > >Me neither. SMIT was HORRIBLE if you understood the files in /etc and > >knew what to do with them. It might be nice if you had no understanding > >of how to admin a Unix system and here is this "nice" curses based way to > >do admin. > > SMIT was one just one of the systems that I had to sysadmin (along with > Open/Xenix (hah!), Slowaris, PH-UX (as we called it), etc; I narrowly > avoided Windoze, along with denying all knowledge of COBOL. > > >To anyone remotely competent, and I don't mean edit sendmail.cf, I mean > >you can edit inetd.conf, you can edit a crontab file, etc, SMIT was a > >nightmare that made something that should be vi $FILE, done 20 seconds > >later, a hellish journey through their menus. It was AWFUL. > > Quite, because I liked the way that SMIT showed you the obtuse command that > was being executed, so you could run it yourself with modifications. > > >Ask me how I know. > > Ditto... > > -- Dave -- --- Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com http://www.mcvoy.com/lm