From: Jon Steinhart <jon@fourwinds.com>
To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] The Elements Of Style: UNIX As Literature
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2020 14:44:14 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <202011062244.0A6MiEgX575756@darkstar.fourwinds.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD2gp_RnZbUCahqfWzuyOBR8fpbZTNw5aQDQhNGdbQ1z4pfSRw@mail.gmail.com>
John Cowan writes:
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 1:51 PM Jon Steinhart <jon@fourwinds.com> wrote:
>
> > I've always been willing to spend buckets of money on the monitors because
> > to me that's an area where bigger and higher resolution is always better.
>
> You'd hardly want one the size of a city block, or even of a room wall.
>
> > I hated Shakespeare in high school. One of the big reasons was that I felt
> > that he made up a word whenever he didn't have a good one available.
>
> Contrary to Internet opinion, Shakespeare probably never invented any
> words. At most he is the first person to record in writing a word whose
> written works have survived (mostly). Why would a commercial playwright
> (and Shakespeare wrote for money) use a word his audience didn't
> understand? They'd boo the play off the stage, with or without rotten
> fruit. He did both invent and reuse a lot of phrases: see <
> https://inside.mines.edu/~jamcneil/levinquote.html>, or google for "you are
> quoting Shakespeare".
>
> The
> > flipping back and forth to the list of definitions completely interrupted
> > the cadence of reading.
>
> Pop-up translations would be much better, of course. I studied R&J with
> footnotes; my daughter, with an across-the-page translation into
> Contemporary Modern English. Of course, that meant I had to explain some
> of the gallows humor to her, like Mercutio's dying words: "Seek for me
> tomorrow, and you will find me a *grave* man."
>
> > While readers might "lose focus" part of the way through long lines, that
> > has to
> > be balanced against the loss of focus that comes from 'mental
> > carriage-returns"
> > when text is too narrow and broken across several lines. Again, not
> > studied as
> > far as I know.
>
> Lispers, of course, have only one kind of bracket, and append as many
> close-brackets to each line as are needed there. (We don't count them,
> Emacs and vi do the matching.) Sure saves on vertical whitespace, which
> means you typically can see a whole function in one screen.
As I said in my original post, we're getting into religion here.
So we have different views on monitors; I am contemplating replacing my 32"
UHD monitor with a 70" UHD TV. Why? Because I can keep everything on my
screen the same which will make everything bigger so I can put the monitor
farther away getting me out of my farsighted zone and into my 20-20 range
which would eliminate the need for glasses.
Not gonna rathole on the Shakespeare analogy - maybe I'm wrong but it's
not relevant to the point that I was making. The books that we were given
in high school didn't have pop-up translations or footnotes.
In case I wasn't clear in my original posting, the topic was mental locality
of reference issues as related to terminal size and coding style.
Jon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-06 22:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-05 22:10 Tyler Adams
2020-11-06 0:39 ` Kevin Bowling
2020-11-06 1:41 ` Larry McVoy
2020-11-06 5:04 ` John Cowan
2020-11-06 5:16 ` Steve Nickolas
2020-11-06 6:34 ` Rob Pike
2020-11-06 13:20 ` Will Senn
2020-11-06 15:07 ` Clem Cole
2020-11-06 15:40 ` Will Senn
2020-11-06 15:46 ` Chris Torek
2020-11-06 22:54 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-11-06 23:29 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-11-06 22:31 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-11-06 23:41 ` Warren Toomey
2020-11-06 6:37 ` Greg 'groggy' Lehey
2020-11-06 15:06 ` Larry McVoy
2020-11-06 15:18 ` Bakul Shah
2020-11-06 15:19 ` Chris Torek
2020-11-06 16:46 ` Stephen Clark
2020-11-06 18:51 ` Jon Steinhart
2020-11-06 22:09 ` John Cowan
2020-11-06 22:44 ` Jon Steinhart [this message]
2020-11-06 22:12 ` Andy Kosela
2020-11-06 22:23 ` Larry McVoy
2020-11-07 0:16 ` Dave Horsfall
2020-11-08 23:23 ` George Michaelson
2020-11-06 17:05 ` Paul Winalski
2020-11-06 17:07 ` Larry McVoy
2020-11-06 17:25 ` Warner Losh
2020-11-06 17:13 ` Adam Thornton
2020-11-06 17:26 ` Stephen Clark
2020-11-06 18:24 ` John Cowan
2020-11-06 21:10 ` Dave Horsfall
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