From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 21297 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2020 22:45:09 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Nov 2020 22:45:09 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9795C9D4BF; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 08:45:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA079D4B8; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 08:44:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2ADB89D4B8; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 08:44:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: from fourwinds.com (fourwinds.com [63.64.179.162]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8632A9D4B4 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 08:44:15 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourwinds.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 0A6MiE9t575760 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2020 14:44:14 -0800 Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (jon@localhost) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 0A6MiEgX575756 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 2020 14:44:14 -0800 Message-Id: <202011062244.0A6MiEgX575756@darkstar.fourwinds.com> From: Jon Steinhart To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-reply-to: References: <20201106014109.GP26296@mcvoy.com> <20201106063725.GB99027@eureka.lemis.com> <20201106150609.GR26296@mcvoy.com> <202011061851.0A6IpB7p555742@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Comments: In-reply-to John Cowan message dated "Fri, 06 Nov 2020 17:09:19 -0500." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <575754.1604702654.1@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2020 14:44:14 -0800 X-JON-SPAM: local delivery Subject: Re: [TUHS] The Elements Of Style: UNIX As Literature X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" John Cowan writes: > On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 1:51 PM Jon Steinhart wrote: > > > I've always been willing to spend buckets of money on the monitors because > > to me that's an area where bigger and higher resolution is always better. > > You'd hardly want one the size of a city block, or even of a room wall. > > > I hated Shakespeare in high school. One of the big reasons was that I felt > > that he made up a word whenever he didn't have a good one available. > > Contrary to Internet opinion, Shakespeare probably never invented any > words. At most he is the first person to record in writing a word whose > written works have survived (mostly). Why would a commercial playwright > (and Shakespeare wrote for money) use a word his audience didn't > understand? They'd boo the play off the stage, with or without rotten > fruit. He did both invent and reuse a lot of phrases: see < > https://inside.mines.edu/~jamcneil/levinquote.html>, or google for "you are > quoting Shakespeare". > > The > > flipping back and forth to the list of definitions completely interrupted > > the cadence of reading. > > Pop-up translations would be much better, of course. I studied R&J with > footnotes; my daughter, with an across-the-page translation into > Contemporary Modern English. Of course, that meant I had to explain some > of the gallows humor to her, like Mercutio's dying words: "Seek for me > tomorrow, and you will find me a *grave* man." > > > While readers might "lose focus" part of the way through long lines, that > > has to > > be balanced against the loss of focus that comes from 'mental > > carriage-returns" > > when text is too narrow and broken across several lines. Again, not > > studied as > > far as I know. > > Lispers, of course, have only one kind of bracket, and append as many > close-brackets to each line as are needed there. (We don't count them, > Emacs and vi do the matching.) Sure saves on vertical whitespace, which > means you typically can see a whole function in one screen. As I said in my original post, we're getting into religion here. So we have different views on monitors; I am contemplating replacing my 32" UHD monitor with a 70" UHD TV. Why? Because I can keep everything on my screen the same which will make everything bigger so I can put the monitor farther away getting me out of my farsighted zone and into my 20-20 range which would eliminate the need for glasses. Not gonna rathole on the Shakespeare analogy - maybe I'm wrong but it's not relevant to the point that I was making. The books that we were given in high school didn't have pop-up translations or footnotes. In case I wasn't clear in my original posting, the topic was mental locality of reference issues as related to terminal size and coding style. Jon