From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 27330 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2020 23:37:17 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Nov 2020 23:37:17 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id CE53D9D4D8; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 09:37:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D2E9D4B8; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 09:36:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A82749D4B8; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 09:36:44 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 460 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2020 09:36:43 AEST Received: from sdaoden.eu (sdaoden.eu [217.144.132.164]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE6F89D4B4 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 09:36:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: by sdaoden.eu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1830F16057; Sat, 7 Nov 2020 00:29:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2020 00:29:01 +0100 From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey Message-ID: <20201106232901.AkY2I%steffen@sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: <20201106225422.GD99027@eureka.lemis.com> References: <175409f6-af94-601e-3db3-a5af5d7f64d0@gmail.com> <202011061546.0A6Fkv3D034443@elf.torek.net> <20201106225422.GD99027@eureka.lemis.com> Mail-Followup-To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , Chris Torek , tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.19-158-g7c269c7f-dirty OpenPGP: id=EE19E1C1F2F7054F8D3954D8308964B51883A0DD; url=https://ftp.sdaoden.eu/steffen.asc; preference=signencrypt BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. Subject: Re: [TUHS] The Elements Of Style: UNIX As Literature X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote in <20201106225422.GD99027@eureka.lemis.com>: |On Friday, 6 November 2020 at 7:46:57 -0800, Chris Torek wrote: |>> I use single spaces between sentences, but my ancestors |>> used 2... who knows why? :). |> |> Typewriters. |> |> In typesetting, especially when doing right-margin justification, |> we have "stretchy spaces" between words. The space after end-of- |> sentence punctuation marks is supposed to be about 50% larger than |> the width of the between-words spaces, and if the word spaces get |> stretched, so should the end-of-sentence space. | |FWIW, this is the US convention. Other countries have different |conventions. My Ausinfo style manual states | | There is no need to increase the amount of punctuation ... at the | end of a sentence. | |I believe that this also holds for Germany. I'm not sure that the UK |didn't have different rules again. Yes, the DUDEN of Germany says for typewriters that the punctuation characters period, comma, semicolon, colon, question- and exclamation mark are added without separating whitespace. The next word follows after a space ("Leerschritt", "void step"). However, typewriters often place(d) those characters left in a cell, so that the visual appearance is accordingly. In novels around 66 characters is the recommendation i seem to recall. I have that in mails, 72 in other text modes, and 79 for everything else. (The latter lead to lots of ugly code once i used tabulators, but different tabulator spacing would have resulted in different look in $PAGER and $VISUAL, so ...) --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)