From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 19094 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2020 16:38:51 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 30 Nov 2020 16:38:51 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 6A1429C247; Tue, 1 Dec 2020 02:38:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8119C204; Tue, 1 Dec 2020 02:37:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9884D9C204; Tue, 1 Dec 2020 02:37:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B56359C203 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2020 02:37:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id BEBD335E0A7; Mon, 30 Nov 2020 08:37:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 08:37:53 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Clem Cole Message-ID: <20201130163753.GB18187@mcvoy.com> References: <8b580c46-ecfb-9383-ed43-08108b3ee7bf@tllds.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] The UNIX Command Language (1976) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" So Clem, the fact that troff lost and LaTex won is a direct result of that walled garden that was the early days of Unix. Unless you had a Unix license, no troff for you! Which is a huge bummer, I'm a huge troff fan (especially pic, but all of the preprocessors let you see the output in your head). I wish we lived in a troff world but we don't and that is a direct result of haves (license holders) and have nots (the other 99.999999% of the world). It's not the result we would like but it is what it is. On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 10:52:40AM -0500, Clem Cole wrote: > Too bad, they did not use the UNIX tool kit like troff and eqn which are > described in the paper itself, to restore it. If you were going to the > trouble to make the 'md' file - it would have been just as easy to create > troff source. > > Sigh ... get off my lawn ... > > Clem > > On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 10:17 PM Joachim via TUHS > wrote: > > > Apologies if this has already been linked here. > > > > "The UNIX Command Language is the first-ever paper published on the Unix > > shell. It was written by Ken Thompson in 1976." > > > > https://github.com/susam/tucl > > > > > > Joachim > > -- --- Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com http://www.mcvoy.com/lm