From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 7512 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2020 02:12:49 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Dec 2020 02:12:49 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 59BAC93D5F; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 12:12:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA06A93D34; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 12:12:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2D79093D34; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 12:12:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from fourwinds.com (fourwinds.com [63.64.179.162]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAEA893D28 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2020 12:12:17 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourwinds.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 0BA2CGt2029180 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2020 18:12:17 -0800 Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (jon@localhost) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 0BA2CGEd029177 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2020 18:12:16 -0800 Message-Id: <202012100212.0BA2CGEd029177@darkstar.fourwinds.com> From: Jon Steinhart To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-reply-to: References: <1479.1607559546@hop.toad.com> Comments: In-reply-to John Cowan message dated "Wed, 09 Dec 2020 20:49:43 -0500." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <29175.1607566336.1@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 18:12:16 -0800 X-JON-SPAM: local delivery Subject: Re: [TUHS] Cole's Slaw X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" John Cowan writes: > > That certainly worked for closing the Digital Divide. Some suggested > > allocating billions in tax dollars to subsidize the un-networked in the > > 1990s and 2000's. Instead we mostly just waited a few years. > > Semiconductor economics plus consumer behavior (demand rises very > > quickly as prices drop, which provides economies of scale) solve most of > > the problem for you. > > > > Not quite yet. As of 2018, which is the latest data I can find, only 73% > of U.S. households have 10 Mbps download speed or better, and only 46% have > 100 Mbps service or better. If you look at the lowest quartile of > household incomes, the figures are 33% and 18% respectively. (You want > adoption figures, not deployment figures.) Wiring up the whole country is > fine, but if people won't or can't use it, it does little good. This is not a really TUHS topic. As one of those people who does not have decent internet service and am still waiting I'd be happy to see some money spent to broaden availability. This is not being a matter of waiting years, it's a matter of waiting decades so far. Access is an equity issue as it's essential for everything from participating in government, schooling, and almost every other aspect of life today. Maybe people with good service are willing to have everyone else wait but IMHO society isn't well served that way. Jon