From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 7648 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2020 02:02:44 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 13 Dec 2020 02:02:44 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 284029B9F8; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 12:02:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0AA693D37; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 12:02:22 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1EF6493D37; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 12:02:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mercury.lcs.mit.edu (mercury.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.122]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A097193D29 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 2020 12:02:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 11178) id 85F3D18C0A6; Sat, 12 Dec 2020 21:02:19 -0500 (EST) To: tuhs@tuhs.org Message-Id: <20201213020219.85F3D18C0A6@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 21:02:19 -0500 (EST) From: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Were cron and at done at the same time? Or one before the other? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" > From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" > Having a clean architecture is useful in so far as it makes reduces > maintenance overhead and improves reliability. I would put it differently, hence my aphorism that: "the sign of great architecture is not how well it does the things it was designed to do, but how well it does things you never imagined it would be used for". I suppose you could say that reducing maintenance and improving reliability are examples of the natural consequences of that, but to me those are limited special cases of the more general statement. My sense is that systems decline over time because of what I call 'system cancer': as they are modified to do more and more (new) things, the changes are not usually very cleanly integrated, and eventually one winds up with a big pile. (Examples of this abound; I'm sure we can all think of several.) Noel