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* [TUHS] The 2038 bug...
@ 2020-12-31  7:19 Dave Horsfall
  2020-12-31  7:24 ` Niklas Karlsson
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  0 siblings, 5 replies; 34+ messages in thread
From: Dave Horsfall @ 2020-12-31  7:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society

As the new year is about to kick in (down-under anyway), it got me to 
thinking (always dangerous): how many here will be around for it to pick 
up the pieces that are no doubt still lying around?

I'll be about the ripe old age of 85, so I may be around to see the 
Imminent Death of the Internet (Film at 11).

2100?  Forget it...  Too bad, as "Revolt in 2100 (?)" is one of my 
favourite Heinlein books.

Others?

-- Dave

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* Re: [TUHS] The 2038 bug...
@ 2020-12-31 15:05 M Douglas McIlroy
  2020-12-31 16:51 ` arnold
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread
From: M Douglas McIlroy @ 2020-12-31 15:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

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> I'll be (G-d willing) 79 then; I hope around, but I also hope not
> overly involved with computers.

From the vantage point of 88, I can attest to the permanence of
computing's grip. I guess the key word is "overly".  The only code
I've written in the last couple of weeks is a few lines of PostScript
to touch up my seasonal map/greeting card, the creative part of
which is at www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~doug/2020map.pdf.

Doug

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* Re: [TUHS] The 2038 bug...
@ 2021-01-09  8:44 Norman Wilson
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread
From: Norman Wilson @ 2021-01-09  8:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

Warner Losh:

  Less ugly would be to declare time_t to be unsigned instead of signed...
  It would break less code... Making time_t 64 bits also breaks code, even if
  you declare you don't care about binary compat since many older apps know
  time_t is 32-bits.

===

I remember chatting in 1998 with a consultant who worked with
clients in the financial industry.  They still used 32-bit systems
at the time, and had already converted critical programs (I don't
know whether that included parts of libc or they had their own
conversion routines) to make time_t unsigned.

It mattered early to those folks because of 40-year bonds.

That suggests to me that the financial-services world may have
a head start on the 2038 problem, but I fear many others are
still lagging behind.  64 bits will help but not as much for
embedded systems and legacy stuff.

Us hobbyists will doubtless have fun too, as we already do
(ask Warren) when running the earliest existing UNIX images,
in which times are stored in sixtieths of a second.

Norman Wilson
Toronto ON

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2020-12-31  7:19 [TUHS] The 2038 bug Dave Horsfall
2020-12-31  7:24 ` Niklas Karlsson
2020-12-31  8:10   ` arnold
2020-12-31 15:30     ` Warner Losh
2020-12-31 16:09       ` Adam Thornton
2020-12-31 16:12         ` Larry McVoy
2021-01-11  7:18           ` alan
2021-01-11 14:01             ` Stuart Remphrey
2020-12-31 18:36         ` Theodore Ts'o
2020-12-31 21:34           ` Warner Losh
2021-01-06 16:32       ` Dario Niedermann
2021-01-06 17:08         ` Henry Bent
2021-01-06 18:05           ` Dario Niedermann
2021-01-06 18:20           ` Michael Kjörling
2021-01-06 21:09         ` Dave Horsfall
2020-12-31 19:18     ` Bakul Shah
2021-01-04  8:22 ` Peter Jeremy via TUHS
2021-01-04  9:13   ` Angus Robinson
2021-01-04 21:49   ` Dave Horsfall
2021-01-04 21:56     ` Warner Losh
2021-01-05 18:05       ` Dan Cross
2021-01-06  7:21         ` Warner Losh
2021-01-07 22:56     ` Stuart Remphrey
2021-01-08  1:25       ` Nemo Nusquam
2021-01-10  6:56         ` Stuart Remphrey
2021-01-04  8:59 ` Sergio Pedraja
2021-01-07 22:50 ` Stuart Remphrey
2021-01-10  7:16 ` Valdimar Sigurdsson
2021-01-10  7:24   ` Niklas Karlsson
2021-01-10 10:15   ` Stuart Remphrey
2020-12-31 15:05 M Douglas McIlroy
2020-12-31 16:51 ` arnold
2020-12-31 23:31   ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2021-01-09  8:44 Norman Wilson

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