From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 22428 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2021 21:11:32 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 24 Jan 2021 21:11:32 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4E59B9C8DE; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:11:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D38049C8AD; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:11:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C164C9C875; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:11:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CD6C9C78D for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2021 07:11:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 5958C35E1B7; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 13:11:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 13:11:00 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Jon Steinhart Message-ID: <20210124211100.GI21030@mcvoy.com> References: <20210124183653.GD21030@mcvoy.com> <202101242045.10OKjDvA964774@darkstar.fourwinds.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <202101242045.10OKjDvA964774@darkstar.fourwinds.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] tangential unix question: whatever happened to NeWS? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 12:45:13PM -0800, Jon Steinhart wrote: > power to kill NeWS. One of the leaders of this was Apollo, and according > to folks that I knew there, they felt that their networking was better > than Sun's, but they lost because Sun "gave away" NFS. Small hijack because I couldn't help it :) As someone who has used Apollos side by side with Suns (this was before I went to work at Sun, around 1987), to say Apollos were better at anything than a Sun was a joke in bad taste. If I remember correctly, they were both based on 68020s, so same baseline. Apollos just sucked, their networked file system was slow as molasses. In spite of having dozens of Apollos available to me, and just one Sun file server, the first thing I did at that job was to port the cross compiler from Apollo to Sun, that one machine was faster than anything I could get done on a pile of Apollos. I hated them. --lm