From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 10538 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2021 23:37:52 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 30 Jan 2021 23:37:52 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id CF2E29C7FD; Sun, 31 Jan 2021 09:37:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29C29C653; Sun, 31 Jan 2021 09:37:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id CDC1A9C653; Sun, 31 Jan 2021 09:37:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: from fourwinds.com (fourwinds.com [63.64.179.162]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BD779C63D for ; Sun, 31 Jan 2021 09:37:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourwinds.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 10UNbUcb465944 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 15:37:30 -0800 Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (jon@localhost) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 10UNbTMU465941 for ; Sat, 30 Jan 2021 15:37:30 -0800 Message-Id: <202101302337.10UNbTMU465941@darkstar.fourwinds.com> From: Jon Steinhart To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-reply-to: <20210130233117.GR4568@mcvoy.com> References: <202101301950.10UJoWeA456408@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210130222854.GN4227@mcvoy.com> <20210130231119.GA33905@eureka.lemis.com> <20210130231750.GQ4227@mcvoy.com> <20210130233117.GR4568@mcvoy.com> Comments: In-reply-to Larry McVoy message dated "Sat, 30 Jan 2021 15:31:18 -0800." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <465939.1612049849.1@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 15:37:29 -0800 X-JON-SPAM: local delivery Subject: Re: [TUHS] [SPAM] Re: FreeBSD behind the times? (was: Favorite unix design principles?) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Larry McVoy writes: > It's 20 years past the time for that re-evaluation. Seriously, Linux > distros have been installing in X for at least 20 years, I think maybe > more. If they can do it.... That doesn't mean that it's great. It's only easy to use once one learns the quirks, like it appearing to hang with no feedback when you hit buttons, and the way one has to click "done" when you're not actually done. The number of options is so small that I think that it would be better to just have the whole configuration on a single screen so that newbies wouldn't have to wonder where things were done and whether or not they'd be able to "go back" without trying it. > Nope, it's not remotely stuck. I get it, you like FreeBSD. That's fine > but be honest about where it is. How many of the developers with a commit > bit actually run FreeBSD on their desktop and laptops? As their daily > platform? Huh, I thought that most of the linux developers these days ran on Macs.