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From: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
To: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] troff was not so widely usable (was: The UNIX Command Language (1976))
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 13:44:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210210214436.GV13701@mcvoy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1l9wPq-0036x9C@more.local>

On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 12:48:49PM -0800, Greg A. Woods wrote:
> At Mon, 30 Nov 2020 11:54:37 -0500, Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com> wrote:
> Subject: Re: [TUHS] The UNIX Command Language (1976)
> >
> > yes ... but ... even UNIX binary folks had troff licenses and many/most at
> > ditroff licenses.
> 
> I would like to try once again to dispell the apparent myth that troff
> was readily available to Unix users in wider circles.

I had n/troff on the BSD based vaxen that UW-Madison CS had.  There was
a standard binder of docs (that I still have 35+ years later) that had
the troff, -ms, -man, -me, tbl, eqn, pic, refer docs (no grap, sadly,
I wrote my own).

The Masscomps I used had working roffs.  I've been using troff since
well before 1985 (I found that Masscomp restor.e doc, it was 1985 but
I was well into troff by then, I started with -man and -ms but was 
experimenting with -me for that paper.  I liked -me well enough but
-ms just made more sense to me so I went back to that and have been
there ever since).

The 3B1 that my roommate and I shared had working roff.

I don't remember how we got stuff printed, I was for sure using troff
for years before the postscript one came about.  

So for once, I'm gonna side with Clem on this one.  I've always had
troff and been very happy with it.  I know LaTex sort of won but I'm
not a fan.

--lm

P.S.  Groff is C++, not C.  That made it dicey until g++ got stable.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-10 21:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-30  3:10 [TUHS] The UNIX Command Language (1976) Joachim via TUHS
2020-11-30  8:30 ` Thomas Paulsen
2020-11-30 13:36 ` Brantley Coile
2020-11-30 15:12   ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS
2020-11-30 15:52 ` Clem Cole
2020-11-30 16:25   ` Dan Cross
2020-11-30 16:38     ` Warner Losh
2020-11-30 16:41       ` Dan Cross
2020-11-30 16:37   ` Larry McVoy
2020-11-30 16:54     ` Clem Cole
2020-11-30 18:13       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-11-30 18:25       ` John Cowan
2020-11-30 18:37         ` Clem Cole
2020-11-30 20:11           ` arnold
2020-11-30 21:49             ` Will Senn
2020-12-01  2:55             ` Jon Steinhart
2020-11-30 18:46         ` Nemo Nusquam
2021-02-10 20:48       ` [TUHS] troff was not so widely usable (was: The UNIX Command Language (1976)) Greg A. Woods
2021-02-10 21:44         ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2021-02-10 22:05         ` Clem Cole
2021-02-11 21:58           ` Greg A. Woods
2021-02-12  5:22             ` George Michaelson
2021-02-12 22:13             ` Dave Horsfall
2021-02-12 22:18               ` Ron Natalie
2021-02-10 22:36         ` Jon Steinhart
2021-02-10 23:05           ` George Michaelson
2021-02-11  0:27             ` Ron Natalie
2021-02-11  0:36               ` Larry McVoy
2021-02-11  1:53               ` Clem Cole
2021-02-11  1:59                 ` Richard Salz
2021-02-11  2:04                   ` George Michaelson
2021-02-11  2:44                     ` Richard Salz
2021-02-11  3:02                       ` Steve Nickolas
2021-02-11  4:07                         ` Toby Thain
2021-02-11 16:55                       ` Ron Natalie
2021-02-11 20:27                         ` John Cowan
2021-02-11  2:30                 ` [TUHS] troff was not so widely usable Mary Ann Horton
2021-02-11  2:52                   ` Larry McVoy
2021-02-11  6:42                     ` Andrew Hume
2021-02-11  7:12                       ` Rob Pike
2021-02-11 13:06                         ` John Gilmore
2021-02-11 17:34                           ` Jon Forrest
2021-02-11 18:09                             ` John Cowan
2021-02-11 18:43                               ` Rich Morin
2020-12-01  3:59 ` [TUHS] The UNIX Command Language (1976) jason-tuhs
2020-12-01  4:03   ` Jon Steinhart
2020-12-01  9:27   ` Steve Nickolas
2020-12-01 15:09   ` Jim Capp
2020-12-01 15:35     ` Toby Thain
2020-12-01 15:38     ` arnold
2020-12-01 16:24       ` Warner Losh
2020-12-01 16:39         ` arnold
2020-12-01 20:13           ` Rob Pike
2020-12-02  7:08             ` arnold
2020-12-02  7:29               ` Rob Pike
2020-12-01 20:20           ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2020-12-01 20:39             ` Bakul Shah
2020-12-01 21:24               ` Dan Cross
2020-12-01 23:44                 ` John Cowan
2020-12-12 19:50           ` scj
2020-12-01 16:47         ` Larry McVoy
2020-12-01 20:13     ` Dave Horsfall
2020-12-01 20:49       ` John Cowan
2020-12-01 16:04 ` Tyler Adams

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