From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 16154 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2021 13:48:59 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 12 Feb 2021 13:48:59 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C7E159C873; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 23:48:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C977A9C6CF; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 23:48:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D95819C6CF; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 23:48:15 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 508 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 23:48:14 AEST Received: from mail4.ugr.es (mail4.ugr.es [150.214.243.4]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234859C2E5 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 23:48:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from smtp4.ugr.es (smtp4.ugr.es [150.214.220.64]) by mail4.ugr.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD6B8089A47 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 14:48:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [90.161.84.251]) by smtp4.ugr.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EED158078303 for ; Fri, 12 Feb 2021 14:48:11 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2021 14:48:11 +0100 From: Angel M Alganza To: TUHS main list Message-ID: <20210212134811.GF6275@zombi.ugr.es> References: <20210208182123.GI13701@mcvoy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Macs and future unix derivatives X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Angel M Alganza Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 10:32:03AM -0800, Justin Coffey wrote: > My question then is, are there any examples of projects that maintained > discipline, focus and relevance over years/decades that serve as counter > examples to the above statement(s)? OpenBSD? Go? Is there anything to > learn here? I think OpenBSD, yes, and also Haiku. Every so often somebody argues that they need to do this or that, and release an stable (not beta) version, if they want to compete with orher OS. Their answer is always that they will release it when it's ready and that they aren't try to compete for a "market" share or anything, but ship a good product when it's right. I don't know if that will remain true after they ship R1 (binary compatible with BeOS R5), or if they will feel free to start adding things in for other reasons than making the best OS they can, and frack it up. I hope not! Regards. Ángel