From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 22694 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2021 23:22:16 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Mar 2021 23:22:16 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 834E39CA7A; Sun, 7 Mar 2021 09:22:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204259CA6D; Sun, 7 Mar 2021 09:21:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id ECEFB9CA6D; Sun, 7 Mar 2021 09:21:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: from sdaoden.eu (sdaoden.eu [217.144.132.164]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8C159CA6B for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2021 09:21:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: from kent.sdaoden.eu (kent.sdaoden.eu [10.5.0.1]) by sdaoden.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D460316056; Sun, 7 Mar 2021 00:21:38 +0100 (CET) Received: by kent.sdaoden.eu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A1DCBFC82; Sun, 7 Mar 2021 00:21:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2021 00:21:37 +0100 From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Message-ID: <20210306232137.RzjuT%steffen@sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: References: Mail-Followup-To: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.22-99-g733424fe OpenPGP: id=EE19E1C1F2F7054F8D3954D8308964B51883A0DD; url=https://ftp.sdaoden.eu/steffen.asc; preference=signencrypt BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. Subject: Re: [TUHS] tabs vs spaces - entab, detab X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Greg A. Woods wrote in : |At Fri, 5 Mar 2021 11:44:49 -0500, M Douglas McIlroy wrote: |Subject: [TUHS] tabs vs spaces - entab, detab |> |>> The reason to use tab was file size for one |> |> This is urban legend. The percentage of 512-byte blocks that |> tabs would save was never significant. | |Using tabs to save space was definitely more than an urban legend for |some of us! (but there is a caveat below) That, for example if you have to use 1.44MB floppies for incremental backups and the project is larger. But i admit it became fashion of the day at some time. I had times where functions were separated by two newlines, modules ((anonymous) namespaces) by three, i had long separators like ^#+$ for shell/perl and '// -+ //' for C++ etc etc, where the number backing "+" was dependent upon what it separated. What a tremendous waste of space, and was it any clearer. I am not such a pragmatic person when doing creative work, especially not when starting from a white paper, well i know it is hopeless, and did so for a long time indeed, but over and over again you find yourself longing for the absolute clarity and perfection (well, surely in a frisky and at the same time blinkered way), and having a style pigeon-hole belongs to this. It just grew like that. There are more important things however, and i learned (but do not adhere to the conclusion) that what is really needed is a comment here and there, because if you have to touch code, then you need to read and at best understand it anyhow, and then all the above is just noise that is skipped over. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)