From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17852 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2021 18:45:12 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Mar 2021 18:45:12 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B3C749B5C9; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 04:45:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501039B550; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 04:44:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 9766E9B550; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 04:44:17 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 04:44:16 AEST Received: from hekla.abc.se (hekla.abc.se [158.174.61.227]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4388F9B54E for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 04:44:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: from eeyore.prefix.duckdns.org (83-233-145-220.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.145.220]) by hekla.abc.se (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id ccb2b2e1 (TLSv1.3:AEAD-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256:NO); Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:37:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from box.prefix.duckdns.org (box.prefix.duckdns.org [192.168.1.50]) by eeyore.prefix.duckdns.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id f3371645; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:37:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (box.prefix.duckdns.org [local]) by box.prefix.duckdns.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 0ad93ca8; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:37:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 19:37:33 +0100 From: Andreas Kusalananda =?utf-8?B?S8OkaMOkcmk=?= To: Steve Nickolas Message-ID: <20210310183733.GA14019@box.prefix.duckdns.org> Mail-Followup-To: Steve Nickolas , The Eunuchs Hysterical Society References: <20210309162128.692CF640CB6@lignose.oclsc.org> <20210309202255.3doIj%steffen@sdaoden.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TUHS] manual humour (was tunefs -m 5%) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Tue, Mar 09, 2021 at 06:51:56PM -0500, Steve Nickolas wrote: > On Wed, 10 Mar 2021, Rob Pike wrote: > > > I'm curious when people (other than me) erred and stopped saying that ed > > was the standard editor. > > > > -rob > > > > I actually use that expression in somewhat unorthodox ways. ;) > > Like "CDE is the standard desktop environment like ed is the standard text > editor." (I still consider both to be true even though about no one uses > either anymore.) > > -uso. Hi, I'm "about no one". I use ed(1) every once in a while, both the way it was supposed to be used, i.e. interactively, and occasionally scripted on smaller documents. I'm soon 50. Having grown up with computers, and having spent most of my money as a student buying the next bigger and/or faster PC, I find that I nowadays enjoy smaller, slower systems and simpler editors more and more. Getting distracted by syntax highligting, confused by too complicated configurations... There is a certain beauty in the editing language of ed(1). It's minimalistic and restrictive, and therefore forces you to think, to remember, and to be creative. One of my big sorrows is not *having* to deal with ed(1) as a youngster or student, over slow modem links. I think I would appreciate Unix even more now if I had. I was born one or two decades too late. ed(1) is still the standard editor though, and so is ex(1) and vi(1), at least if POSIX is to be believed :-) -- Andreas (Kusalananda) Kähäri SciLifeLab, NBIS, ICM Uppsala University, Sweden .