From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17748 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2021 21:41:16 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 17 Mar 2021 21:41:16 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A21D19C226; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 07:41:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952159B68A; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 07:41:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 18E879B68A; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 07:41:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA9B69B688 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 07:41:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id A354535E1AF; Wed, 17 Mar 2021 14:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 14:40:59 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Henry Bent Message-ID: <20210317214059.GD24642@mcvoy.com> References: <20210317203335.GA5249@naleco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Surprised about Unix System V in the 80's - so sparse! X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 05:29:40PM -0400, Henry Bent wrote: > > I mean, mail without Internet is pretty useless, althouhg I understand it > > could be useful for inter-company communications. And yes, it had vi and > > the > > Bourne Shell. But still, it feels very very limited, this Xenix version, > > from a user's point of view. > > Which might well explain why Xenix failed to gain much ground with normal > folks at home. If you used a UNIX at work, sure, you might want to pay the > money to have it at home. But why spend the $ for an operating system that > didn't have widespread application development? My first home Unix machine was a 3B1. It was great. There is just something so bloody limiting about DOS when you compare it to Unix. Unix was for developers, DOS was for end users. Entirely different beasts. That said, System V was very limited compared to BSD. BSD was much closer to what we have today, it felt friendly, System V felt sort of corporate. To me at least. --lm