From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 15049 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2021 08:54:34 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 30 Mar 2021 08:54:34 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7CA009C8A9; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 18:54:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A739C82B; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 18:53:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id ACC7C9C82B; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 18:53:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B49C99C829 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 18:53:52 +1000 (AEST) X-Envelope-From: arnold@skeeve.com Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 12U8rgTq018843 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 30 Mar 2021 02:53:42 -0600 Received: (from arnold@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 12U8reBo018841; Tue, 30 Mar 2021 02:53:40 -0600 From: arnold@skeeve.com Message-Id: <202103300853.12U8reBo018841@freefriends.org> X-Authentication-Warning: frenzy.freefriends.org: arnold set sender to arnold@skeeve.com using -f Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2021 02:53:40 -0600 To: akosela@andykosela.com References: <20210329143449.GA28080@mcvoy.com> <202103291722.12THMQhq028681@freefriends.org> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] Remember the ed thread? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Andy Kosela wrote: > On 3/29/21, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: > > Andy Kosela wrote: > > > >> If ed(1) had cursor positioning and full screen capabilities along > >> with line oriented editing (similar to Atari 8-bit default editor) it > >> would be perfect. I still love it though and use it pretty often. > > > > Try out the 'se' editor, see www.se-editor.org. > > Thanks. It is a nice editor, but it actually resembles ex(1) when > using visual mode. Maybe I am missing something but it appears you > cannot actually use cursor keys to visually edit lines in the upper > area of the screen in se -- you can only edit cmd line. > > As far as I know there is no editor in the Unix land which gives you > the ability to work in the ed(1) line oriented mode BUT also allowing > to freely move cursor keys in all directions. I gave example of the > Atari editor[1] which does exactly that. I believe to accomplish it > on Unix one would need to hack ed(1) and add ncurses(3) cursor > positioning. > > --Andy > > [1] https://youtu.be/c9o92l5gupI