From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 6649 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2021 15:34:25 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 1 Apr 2021 15:34:25 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 3A2719C882; Fri, 2 Apr 2021 01:34:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369079C63E; Fri, 2 Apr 2021 01:33:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A7EB09C63E; Fri, 2 Apr 2021 01:33:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 410579C63D for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2021 01:33:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id C22C435E353; Thu, 1 Apr 2021 08:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 08:33:37 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Josh Good Message-ID: <20210401153337.GK4209@mcvoy.com> References: <20210401145025.GA1202@naleco.com> <20210401152738.GB1202@naleco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210401152738.GB1202@naleco.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Zombified SCO comes back from the dead, brings trial back to life against IBM X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 05:27:40PM +0200, Josh Good wrote: > On 2021 Apr 1, 09:12, Warner Losh wrote: > > The other set of claims made, which may be stronger, was that IBM and > > Redhat used their dominant position to lock out OSes other than Linux, > > including FreeBSD from their cloud platform. > > I don't think IBM has a dominant position in the cloud business. Microsoft's > Azure and Amazon's AWS are the dominant forces in the cloud business. > > I don't see merit on that claim from XinuOS. They are just firing in all > directions to find out if by chance they hit some target with money to milk. And the real joke is that they haven't done any serious work so far as I can tell. The original SCO sucked and then they release SVr but so far as I know, there wasn't a decent development team. When I was doing the TCP/IP port I worked with Jeff Radik a bunch but I never got the sense there were big projects at SCO, it was mostly out sourcing. That was a long time ago so who knows. All I know is that Sun did orders of magnitude more work to the kernel, libraries, at the rest of user space.