From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 13759 invoked from network); 2 Apr 2021 16:14:19 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 Apr 2021 16:14:19 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 617EC9CA4C; Sat, 3 Apr 2021 02:14:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3974C9C641; Sat, 3 Apr 2021 02:13:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 556B79C641; Sat, 3 Apr 2021 02:11:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 989409C63F for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2021 02:11:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 1CF9735E1B7; Fri, 2 Apr 2021 09:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 09:11:47 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Clem Cole Message-ID: <20210402161147.GG8268@mcvoy.com> References: <20210401145025.GA1202@naleco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] Zombified SCO comes back from the dead, brings trial back to life against IBM X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list , Josh Good Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 12:03:41PM -0400, Clem Cole wrote: > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 11:54 PM Wesley Parish wrote: > > > I don't think anybody was even thinking of porting any of > > the *BSD to IBM mainframes till much later, am I right? > > > No. BSD was very much on IBM's radar in the late 1970s and 1980s. > > Long before Linus released Linux into the wild in 1990 for the >>386<< much > less any other ISA, IBM had been shipping as a product AIX/370 (and AIX/PS2 > for the 386); which we developed at Locus for them. The user-space was > mostly System V, the kernel was based on BSD (4.1 originally) pluis a great > deal of customization, including of course the Locus OS work, which IBM > called TCF - the transparent computing facility. It was very cool you > could cluster 370s and PS/2 and from >>any<< node run a program of either > ISA. It has been well discussed in this forum, previously. It's really a shame that TCF didn't get more widespread usage/traction. That's exactly what BitMover wanted to do, I wanted to scale small cheap SMPs in a cluster with a TCF layer on it. I gave some talks about it, it obviously went nowhere but might have if we had TCF as a starting point. TCF was cool.