From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 12409 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2021 01:02:15 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Apr 2021 01:02:15 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 577DE9C883; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 11:02:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BAF9C723; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 11:01:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2DE8B9C723; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 11:01:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: from fourwinds.com (fourwinds.com [63.64.179.162]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA28E9C722 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 11:01:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourwinds.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 13711oIV223695 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 18:01:50 -0700 Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (jon@localhost) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 13711odS223692 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 2021 18:01:50 -0700 Message-Id: <202104070101.13711odS223692@darkstar.fourwinds.com> From: Jon Steinhart To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society In-reply-to: References: Comments: In-reply-to Dave Horsfall message dated "Wed, 07 Apr 2021 09:25:53 +1000." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <223690.1617757309.1@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2021 18:01:49 -0700 X-JON-SPAM: local delivery Subject: Re: [TUHS] (no subject) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Dave Horsfall writes: > I quit the ACM when they jacked up their fees to the point of being > unaffordable (and refused to justify it when asked); that, and they were > no longer relevant since I stopped working in academia and went to > industry instead. > > Same story with ACS and IEEE (although they made for useful tax > deductions). Same thing happened to me. I was really annoyed by their refusal to allow the purchase of any of the digital library for offline use because I have such crappy internet service here. Just wanted to have access to stuff that I had already purchased so that I could get rid of the paper copies. The final straw was when being a SIGGRAPH member stopped including the proceedings. Last of my old CACM and proceedings of the IEEE went out recycling today. BTW, as part of my dodsstada project I have found extra copies of the 1992, 1993, 1997, 2000, 2001, 2002, and 2003 SIGGRAPH proceedings if anybody wants 'em. Jon