From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 4786 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2021 22:40:27 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Apr 2021 22:40:27 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C4B6F9CAD1; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 08:40:24 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472D39C723; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 08:40:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2CDE89C723; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 08:40:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D0969C722 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 08:40:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 4FDD035E1A7; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 15:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 15:40:00 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Thomas Paulsen Message-ID: <20210407224000.GY11131@mcvoy.com> References: <2313BFBA-8795-497F-AD46-46CCFC0E6E6C@planet.nl> <840.1617818669@hop.toad.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] PC Unix X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org, pnr@planet.nl Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 12:18:04AM +0200, Thomas Paulsen wrote: > >From: John Gilmore > >Sun was making 68000-based systems in 1981, before the IBM PC was created. > > Sun was founded on February 24, 1982. The Sun-1 was launched in May 1982. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Microsystems > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun-1 John may be sort of right, I bet avb was building 68k machines at Stanford before SUN was founded. Sun stood for Stanford University Network I believe. --lm