From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 8023 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2021 23:05:08 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Apr 2021 23:05:08 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 61D099CAD5; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 09:05:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6929C723; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 09:04:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id CB8D39C723; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 09:04:43 +1000 (AEST) Received: from fourwinds.com (fourwinds.com [63.64.179.162]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B0AF9C722 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 2021 09:04:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourwinds.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 137N4c36271290 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 16:04:38 -0700 Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (jon@localhost) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 137N4cLx271287 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 16:04:38 -0700 Message-Id: <202104072304.137N4cLx271287@darkstar.fourwinds.com> From: Jon Steinhart To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org In-reply-to: <20210407224000.GY11131@mcvoy.com> References: <2313BFBA-8795-497F-AD46-46CCFC0E6E6C@planet.nl> <840.1617818669@hop.toad.com> <20210407224000.GY11131@mcvoy.com> Comments: In-reply-to Larry McVoy message dated "Wed, 07 Apr 2021 15:40:00 -0700." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <271285.1617836678.1@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2021 16:04:38 -0700 X-JON-SPAM: local delivery Subject: Re: [TUHS] PC Unix X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Larry McVoy writes: > On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 12:18:04AM +0200, Thomas Paulsen wrote: > > >From: John Gilmore > > >Sun was making 68000-based systems in 1981, before the IBM PC was created. > > > > Sun was founded on February 24, 1982. The Sun-1 was launched in May 1982. > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Microsystems > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun-1 > > John may be sort of right, I bet avb was building 68k machines at > Stanford before SUN was founded. Sun stood for Stanford University > Network I believe. > > --lm Larry is correct. I remember visiting a friend of mind, Gary Newman, who was working at Lucasfilm in '81. He showed me a bunch of stuff that they were doing on Stanford University Network boards. Full disclosure, it was Gary and Paul Rubinfeld who ended up at DEC and I believe was the architect for the microVax who told me about the explorer scout post at BTL which is how I met Heinz. Jon