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* [TUHS] Help Contacting Unix Legal People
@ 2021-06-10  0:32 Warren Toomey
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Warren Toomey @ 2021-06-10  0:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

All, we need help contacting some people so that Dan Doernberg can make
progress on a new Unix book that he's working on. I've attached his
request to the TUHS list below. If you can help out in any way, please
contact Dan directly.

Cheers, Warren

   From: Peer-to-Peer Communications LLC <dan@peerllc.com>

   Hello all, I’m the publisher of Lions' Commentary on UNIX (still
   going strong after 25 years!) and I have an “Ancient UNIX” book project
   in mind that I need some community help with.

   To avoid running into any “who has copyright rights to UNIX” legal
   problems, we’re trying to reach out in advance to any
   companies/organizations that may have such rights (Micro Focus, Xinuos,
   Nokia, are there others?) in advance. To that end, I’m trying to find
   staffers there who are:
      1. sympathetic to sharing information about “ancient UNIX” with the
   operating system/UNIX communities
      2. somewhat familiar with the past legal issues and controversies
   over UNIX ownership (perhaps someone in the legal department)

   If you know any such person(s) at Micro Focus, Xinuos, Nokia, and/or
   other relevant organizations that has either quality (or ideally a
   unicorn with both!), please pass on their name and email address to me
   (even better, add any context about why they might be helpful to me, if
   it’s OK to say that you referred me to them, etc.].

   Thanks much, all referrals greatly appreciated!
   Dan Doernberg
   dan@peerllc.com

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* [TUHS] Help Contacting Unix Legal People
@ 2021-06-13 15:23 Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS @ 2021-06-13 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: TUHS main list

I understand the preference for a bottom-up entry, with somebody already sympathetic.

If there is no such entry point, top-down may work at Microfocus. I guess the ask is for a statement for SysV similar to the Nokia statement for 8th-10th Edition:
https://media-bell-labs-com.s3.amazonaws.com/pages/20170327_1602/statement%20regarding%20Unix%203-7-17.pdf

According to Companies’ House, the general counsel is Jane Smithard:
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01504593/officers

She appears to be 67, to have a long tenure with Microfocus and maybe is just the right person:
"Jane has more than 25 years’ experience as a lawyer in the IT industry and software sector. She has worked with Micro Focus for over 20 years providing a wide range of commercial and corporate legal services, from leading the efforts through the 2005 IPO to driving the legal aspects of the group’s mergers, acquisitions and divestitures strategy including the acquisition of HPE Software and divestiture of SUSE. Jane leads a team of approximately 60 lawyers and other professionals worldwide, the majority of whom are focused directly on supporting the Company’s commercial teams and business.”
https://www.microfocus.com/en-us/about/leadership-about

Her e-mail appears to be jane (dot) smithard (at) microfocus (dot) com

But I guess that Dan Doernberg already knows all that. His book project sounds intriguing, by the way.

Paul


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* Re: [TUHS] Help Contacting Unix Legal People
  2021-06-12 19:49   ` joe mcguckin
@ 2021-06-12 20:40     ` Al Kossow
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Al Kossow @ 2021-06-12 20:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

On 6/12/21 12:49 PM, joe mcguckin wrote:
> I wonder what ever happened to all the languages they’ve acquired? Anyone remenber Liant?

They also have all of the Irma products (Attachmate, et. al.)


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* Re: [TUHS] Help Contacting Unix Legal People
  2021-06-12 18:58 Jason Stevens
  2021-06-12 19:35 ` Steve Nickolas
@ 2021-06-12 20:32 ` Charles H Sauer
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Charles H Sauer @ 2021-06-12 20:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: tuhs

IF Micro Focus really has abandoned System V, including SVR4 source, and 
that could be documented, then it might be plausible to get Dell SVR4 
publicly visible. Charlie

On 6/12/2021 1:58 PM, Jason Stevens wrote:
> I tried sending a letter a while back asking how much is a commercial SYSV
> license anyways, never got a reply. I called their legal and they didn't
> know what a Unix was.
> 
> 
> I guess shockingly all the public facing micro focus is all on cobol
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren Toomey
> To: tuhs@tuhs.org
> Sent: 6/10/21 8:32 AM
> Subject: [TUHS] Help Contacting Unix Legal People
> 
> All, we need help contacting some people so that Dan Doernberg can make
> progress on a new Unix book that he's working on. I've attached his
> request to the TUHS list below. If you can help out in any way, please
> contact Dan directly.
> 
> Cheers, Warren
> 
>     From: Peer-to-Peer Communications LLC <dan@peerllc.com>
> 
>     Hello all, I’m the publisher of Lions' Commentary on UNIX (still
>     going strong after 25 years!) and I have an “Ancient UNIX” book
> project
>     in mind that I need some community help with.
> 
>     To avoid running into any “who has copyright rights to UNIX” legal
>     problems, we’re trying to reach out in advance to any
>     companies/organizations that may have such rights (Micro Focus,
> Xinuos,
>     Nokia, are there others?) in advance. To that end, I’m trying to find
>     staffers there who are:
>        1. sympathetic to sharing information about “ancient UNIX” with
> the
>     operating system/UNIX communities
>        2. somewhat familiar with the past legal issues and controversies
>     over UNIX ownership (perhaps someone in the legal department)
> 
>     If you know any such person(s) at Micro Focus, Xinuos, Nokia, and/or
>     other relevant organizations that has either quality (or ideally a
>     unicorn with both!), please pass on their name and email address to
> me
>     (even better, add any context about why they might be helpful to me,
> if
>     it’s OK to say that you referred me to them, etc.].
> 
>     Thanks much, all referrals greatly appreciated!
>     Dan Doernberg
>     dan@peerllc.com
> 

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* Re: [TUHS] Help Contacting Unix Legal People
  2021-06-12 19:35 ` Steve Nickolas
@ 2021-06-12 19:49   ` joe mcguckin
  2021-06-12 20:40     ` Al Kossow
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: joe mcguckin @ 2021-06-12 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Steve Nickolas; +Cc: tuhs

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I wonder what ever happened to all the languages they’ve acquired? Anyone remenber Liant?


Joe McGuckin
ViaNet Communications

joe@via.net
650-207-0372 cell
650-213-1302 office
650-969-2124 fax



> On Jun 12, 2021, at 12:35 PM, Steve Nickolas <usotsuki@buric.co> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 13 Jun 2021, Jason Stevens wrote:
> 
>> I tried sending a letter a while back asking how much is a commercial SYSV
>> license anyways, never got a reply. I called their legal and they didn't
>> know what a Unix was.
>> 
>> I guess shockingly all the public facing micro focus is all on cobol
> 
> Oh, geez.
> 
> It's weird that something as major as System V would be practically abandoned or disacknowledged like that.  I mean, Microsoft hasn't abandoned MS-DOS to that point...
> 
> -uso.


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* Re: [TUHS] Help Contacting Unix Legal People
  2021-06-12 18:58 Jason Stevens
@ 2021-06-12 19:35 ` Steve Nickolas
  2021-06-12 19:49   ` joe mcguckin
  2021-06-12 20:32 ` Charles H Sauer
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Steve Nickolas @ 2021-06-12 19:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'tuhs@tuhs.org '

On Sun, 13 Jun 2021, Jason Stevens wrote:

> I tried sending a letter a while back asking how much is a commercial SYSV
> license anyways, never got a reply. I called their legal and they didn't
> know what a Unix was.
>
> I guess shockingly all the public facing micro focus is all on cobol

Oh, geez.

It's weird that something as major as System V would be practically 
abandoned or disacknowledged like that.  I mean, Microsoft hasn't 
abandoned MS-DOS to that point...

-uso.

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread

* Re: [TUHS] Help Contacting Unix Legal People
@ 2021-06-12 18:58 Jason Stevens
  2021-06-12 19:35 ` Steve Nickolas
  2021-06-12 20:32 ` Charles H Sauer
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Jason Stevens @ 2021-06-12 18:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Warren Toomey ', 'tuhs@tuhs.org '

I tried sending a letter a while back asking how much is a commercial SYSV
license anyways, never got a reply. I called their legal and they didn't
know what a Unix was.


I guess shockingly all the public facing micro focus is all on cobol

-----Original Message-----
From: Warren Toomey
To: tuhs@tuhs.org
Sent: 6/10/21 8:32 AM
Subject: [TUHS] Help Contacting Unix Legal People

All, we need help contacting some people so that Dan Doernberg can make
progress on a new Unix book that he's working on. I've attached his
request to the TUHS list below. If you can help out in any way, please
contact Dan directly.

Cheers, Warren

   From: Peer-to-Peer Communications LLC <dan@peerllc.com>

   Hello all, I’m the publisher of Lions' Commentary on UNIX (still
   going strong after 25 years!) and I have an “Ancient UNIX” book
project
   in mind that I need some community help with.

   To avoid running into any “who has copyright rights to UNIX” legal
   problems, we’re trying to reach out in advance to any
   companies/organizations that may have such rights (Micro Focus,
Xinuos,
   Nokia, are there others?) in advance. To that end, I’m trying to find
   staffers there who are:
      1. sympathetic to sharing information about “ancient UNIX” with
the
   operating system/UNIX communities
      2. somewhat familiar with the past legal issues and controversies
   over UNIX ownership (perhaps someone in the legal department)

   If you know any such person(s) at Micro Focus, Xinuos, Nokia, and/or
   other relevant organizations that has either quality (or ideally a
   unicorn with both!), please pass on their name and email address to
me
   (even better, add any context about why they might be helpful to me,
if
   it’s OK to say that you referred me to them, etc.].

   Thanks much, all referrals greatly appreciated!
   Dan Doernberg
   dan@peerllc.com

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2021-06-12 19:35 ` Steve Nickolas
2021-06-12 19:49   ` joe mcguckin
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