From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 27023 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2021 11:41:30 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 Jul 2021 11:41:30 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 546059C887; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 21:41:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E449C864; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 21:40:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 177A59C864; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 21:40:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D1C29C861 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 21:40:37 +1000 (AEST) X-Envelope-From: arnold@skeeve.com Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 162BeWCV018130 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 2 Jul 2021 05:40:33 -0600 Received: (from arnold@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 162BeWZt018129; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 05:40:32 -0600 From: arnold@skeeve.com Message-Id: <202107021140.162BeWZt018129@freefriends.org> X-Authentication-Warning: frenzy.freefriends.org: arnold set sender to arnold@skeeve.com using -f Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 05:40:32 -0600 To: crossd@gmail.com, clemc@ccc.com References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] First machine to run rogue? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Is the rogue source extant? I remember many people spending many hours on rogue on the 4.[12] BSD vax at Georgia Tech. ISTR that rogue only came as a binary, there was no source. Arnold Dan Cross wrote: > Thanks, Clem. I'm curious what other lore is out there: my suspicion is > that rogue never ran on vanilla v6, but it would be great to validate. > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 10:51 PM Clem Cole wrote: > > > I first got it on V7, as I said on our 11/70 for sure but I don’t remember > > if we had it on the 11/60 before that. > > > > On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 10:07 PM Dan Cross wrote: > > > >> What was the first machine to run rogue? I understand that it was written > >> by Glenn Wichman and Michael Toy at UC Santa Cruz ca. 1980, using the > >> `curses` library (Ken Arnold's original, not Mary Ann's rewrite). I've seen > >> at least one place that indicates it first ran on 6th Edition, but that > >> doesn't sound right to me. The first reference I can find in BSD is in 2.79 > >> ("rogue.doc"), which also appears to be the first release to ship curses. > >> > >> Anyone have any info? Thanks! > >> > >> - Dan C. > >> > >> -- > > Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual > >