From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 7107 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2021 09:05:50 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 Jul 2021 09:05:50 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 5723E94569; Sun, 11 Jul 2021 19:05:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3312393D85; Sun, 11 Jul 2021 19:04:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 65CAA93D74; Sun, 11 Jul 2021 19:04:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D30593D3C for ; Sun, 11 Jul 2021 19:04:56 +1000 (AEST) X-Envelope-From: arnold@skeeve.com Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 16B94rt9012218 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 11 Jul 2021 03:04:54 -0600 Received: (from arnold@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 16B94rKu012217; Sun, 11 Jul 2021 03:04:53 -0600 From: arnold@skeeve.com Message-Id: <202107110904.16B94rKu012217@freefriends.org> X-Authentication-Warning: frenzy.freefriends.org: arnold set sender to arnold@skeeve.com using -f Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 03:04:53 -0600 To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org, ralph@inputplus.co.uk References: <06737C14-1122-4832-BCAA-A37B242F69E4@me.com> <202107071828.167ISgdN2686558@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210710115135.22FDC21C4E@orac.inputplus.co.uk> <20210710141217.8795F21CD1@orac.inputplus.co.uk> <202107101657.16AGvIHu2818628@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210711085346.1951E21F16@orac.inputplus.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20210711085346.1951E21F16@orac.inputplus.co.uk> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] Death by bug X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Ralph Corderoy wrote: > Given some devices are present in large numbers for many years in > hospitals, and there's a lot of hospitals, an unnoticed bug could be > steadily chipping away at its human overlords. This is why I have purposely stayed away from jobs at companies doing stuff like this. I know I don't write perfect code; I don't want to be responsible for devices that can affect human life. This is also discussed in the new edition of "The Pragmatic Programmer", which I've just finished reading. (Highly recommended.) Arnold