From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 31396 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2021 14:10:23 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 14 Jul 2021 14:10:23 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 198099C0C3; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 00:10:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316AF9B9C2; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 00:09:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id DB48595038; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 00:09:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B82D94566 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 00:09:10 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 1A05035E0AC; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 07:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 07:09:10 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Lars Brinkhoff Message-ID: <20210714140910.GZ15842@mcvoy.com> References: <213a4c11-3ab2-4b4a-8d6b-b52105a19711@localhost> <61a16b78-fa11-49d3-8a62-a840e8b49d3e@localhost> <7wtukxtgag.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7wtukxtgag.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] 386BSD released X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 09:07:19AM +0000, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: > Michael Kj??rling wrote: > > And all this, of course, ignoring the other issue of what might be > > considered a "start to the open source operating system movement", > > given that even development of GNU was well underway by the time the > > Linux kernel got started (having been worked on since early 1984) > > GNU planned to adopt TRIX which was developed at MIT in the mid 1980s. > I don't know its exact distribution terms, but Wipikedia says "open > source" so it was possibly in that general vicinity. > > Arguably ancient PDP-10 operating systems like ITS, WAITS, TENEX were > somewhat "open" and "free", but it's not a clear cut case. X10 and X11 predate all of this and at least X11 is open source. -- --- Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com http://www.mcvoy.com/lm