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From: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Computer Old Farts Followers <coff@tuhs.org>,
	The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] [COFF]  386BSD released
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 10:50:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210714175053.GC15842@mcvoy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YO8hpZ4VYln+QxNb@mit.edu>

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 01:40:53PM -0400, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote:
> If you must, you could try to claim that AT&T was "Source Available"
> --- which is a terminology I've seen some used.  But I think your
> assumptions of how easily the AT&T License could be obtained, and how
> "anyone who wanted it could get it" may be looking at the past with
> rose-colored classes.

Clem was in "the club".  I do remember those times, barely, I was a 
bit too young to have a clear view of things.  But it certainly
seemed like some Universities made the source pretty available.
UW Madison was not one of those, I had to beg and plead to get 
access to the source.

So Clem's memory is fine, his experience was you could get the source.
But that wasn't the universal experience at all, and I agree with
Ted that just getting access to the source doesn't make it remotely
open source.  

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-14 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-13 22:28 [TUHS] " Dave Horsfall
2021-07-14  7:54 ` Michael Kjörling
2021-07-14  8:19   ` Angus Robinson
2021-07-14  8:32     ` Michael Kjörling
2021-07-14  9:07       ` Lars Brinkhoff
2021-07-14 14:09         ` Larry McVoy
2021-07-14 14:54           ` Warner Losh
2021-07-14 15:06             ` Richard Salz
2021-07-14 15:37             ` Steve Nickolas
2021-07-14 10:09       ` Tom Ivar Helbekkmo via TUHS
2021-07-14 10:39         ` arnold
2021-07-14 17:21         ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
2021-07-14 17:32           ` Richard Salz
2021-07-14 15:01     ` Clem Cole
2021-07-14 17:40       ` [TUHS] [COFF] " Theodore Y. Ts'o
2021-07-14 17:50         ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2021-07-14 18:28         ` Clem Cole
2021-07-14 11:49   ` [TUHS] " Andy Kosela
2021-07-14 15:48     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2021-07-16  1:35   ` Dave Horsfall
2021-07-16  2:33     ` risner
2021-07-16  4:25       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2021-07-16  5:51         ` Bakul Shah
2021-07-16 13:00           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2021-07-16 13:56             ` Larry McVoy
2021-07-16 14:40               ` Clem Cole
2021-07-16 15:44                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2021-07-16 16:11               ` Bakul Shah
2021-07-16 19:07               ` Kevin Bowling
2021-07-16 20:17                 ` Clem Cole
2021-07-16 20:24                   ` Richard Salz
2021-07-18 13:13                     ` arnold
2021-07-18 13:23                       ` Richard Salz
2021-07-18 13:43                       ` [TUHS] MtXinu calendar (was Re: 386BSD released) Al Kossow
2021-07-18 13:51                         ` Al Kossow
2021-07-18 16:44                         ` Al Kossow
2021-07-18 17:38                           ` John Cowan
2021-07-18 18:35                           ` Bakul Shah
2021-07-19  3:06                             ` Dan Stromberg
2021-07-18 19:00                           ` arnold
2021-07-18 21:48                             ` Deborah Scherrer
2021-07-18 20:06                           ` Lyle Bickley
2021-07-14 21:37 ` [TUHS] 386BSD released Bakul Shah
2021-07-16 21:22 ` Dave Horsfall
2021-07-15  2:21 Douglas McIlroy
2021-07-15 15:07 ` Clem Cole
2021-07-15 19:33   ` [TUHS] [COFF] " Theodore Y. Ts'o
2021-07-15 19:49     ` Adam Thornton
2021-07-15 20:29       ` Andy Kosela
2021-07-16  2:22       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2021-07-15 20:30     ` Clem Cole
2021-07-16  1:58       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2021-07-16  2:14         ` George Michaelson
2021-07-15 23:02     ` joe mcguckin

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