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Comments: In-reply-to Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com>
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Dan Cross writes:
> That's a bit unfair. One can understand something and see value in it and
> still appreciate its limitations.
>
> Fork has served us well for more than five decades; I've got no argument
> with that. However, should we never question whether it continues to be the
> right, or best, abstraction as the environment around it continues to
> evolve?

Oh, sorry, wasn't meaning to be categorical there.  Main reason that it came
to mind was John's web example; many have said in the past that the UNIX
model couldn't do that until they figured out that it actually could.