From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 11193 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2021 17:40:03 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 30 Aug 2021 17:40:03 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 1E0939D565; Tue, 31 Aug 2021 03:40:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039A19D52D; Tue, 31 Aug 2021 03:39:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id E091E9D52E; Tue, 31 Aug 2021 03:39:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: from sdaoden.eu (sdaoden.eu [217.144.132.164]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06B1E9D52D for ; Tue, 31 Aug 2021 03:39:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: from kent.sdaoden.eu (kent.sdaoden.eu [10.5.0.2]) by sdaoden.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FF4E16059; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 19:39:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: by kent.sdaoden.eu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4F76EDBE; Mon, 30 Aug 2021 15:55:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 15:55:08 +0200 Author: Steffen Nurpmeso From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: "Theodore Ts'o" Message-ID: <20210830135508.oKucm%steffen@sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: References: <202108292212.17TMCGow1448973@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Mail-Followup-To: "Theodore Ts'o" , Henry Bent , The Unix Heretics Society mailing list User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.22-175-gc118a4a5c7 OpenPGP: id=EE19E1C1F2F7054F8D3954D8308964B51883A0DD; url=https://ftp.sdaoden.eu/steffen.asc; preference=signencrypt BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. Subject: Re: [TUHS] Is it time to resurrect the original dsw (delete with switches)? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: The Unix Heretics Society mailing list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Theodore Ts'o wrote in : ... |What a lot of people don't seem to understand is that file system |utilities are *important*, and more work than you might think. The |ext4 file system is roughly 71 kLOC (thousand lines of code) in the |kernel. E2fsprogs is 340 kLOC. In contrast, the btrfs kernel code is |145 kLOC (btrfs does have a lot more "sexy new features"), but its |btrfs-progs utilities is currently only 124 kLOC. To be "fair" it must be said that btrfs usage almost requires installation of e2fsprogs because only that ships chattr(1). --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)