From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 7344 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2021 01:41:07 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 17 Sep 2021 01:41:07 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 237029CAD1; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 11:41:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC04C9CAB3; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 11:40:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4F77C9CAB3; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 11:40:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (fourwinds.com [63.64.179.162]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD5969CAB2 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 11:40:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 18H1eltO3320981 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2021 18:40:47 -0700 Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (jon@localhost) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.16.1/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 18H1elie3320978 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2021 18:40:47 -0700 Message-Id: <202109170140.18H1elie3320978@darkstar.fourwinds.com> From: Jon Steinhart To: TUHS main list In-reply-to: <20210917012847.GD18465@mcvoy.com> References: <202109161934.18GJYFsl881498@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210916194103.GK26820@mcvoy.com> <58BCBB10-A303-41C0-8620-992B107786BB@pobox.com> <202109170110.18H1ABL63319807@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210917012847.GD18465@mcvoy.com> Comments: In-reply-to Larry McVoy message dated "Thu, 16 Sep 2021 18:28:47 -0700." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3320976.1631842847.1@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 18:40:47 -0700 X-JON-SPAM: local delivery Subject: Re: [TUHS] ATC/OSDI'21 joint keynote: It's Time for Operating Systems to Rediscover Hardware (Timothy Roscoe) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Larry McVoy writes: > On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 06:10:11PM -0700, Jon Steinhart wrote: > > Was discussing this with someone the other day. I'm glad that I have an > > engineering degree instead of a computer science degree. > > I have and BS and MS in computer science, with most of a minor in > systems arch from the EE department (but not all, I did it for fun, > I should have finished it). > > That said, when people ask me what I am, I say I'm an engineer. And > proud of it, I love being an engineer, to me it just means you are > someone who figures stuff out. I'm the opposite. Would have double-majored in EE and CS but my school wouldn't allow double majoring unless you stayed for 9 semesters. I finished my EE in 7 semesters and was 2 classes shy of the CS degree and couldn't justify another year just for 2 classes. In hindsight I'm not sure that that was the correct choice because I would have partied my ass off.