From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 11869 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2021 02:21:54 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 17 Sep 2021 02:21:54 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C3A209CAD6; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 12:21:51 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568AF9CAB3; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 12:21:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id F02F89CAB3; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 12:21:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (fourwinds.com [63.64.179.162]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 797CA9CAB2 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 2021 12:21:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 18H2LQc93323083 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2021 19:21:26 -0700 Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (jon@localhost) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.16.1/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 18H2LQ583323080 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2021 19:21:26 -0700 Message-Id: <202109170221.18H2LQ583323080@darkstar.fourwinds.com> From: Jon Steinhart To: TUHS main list In-reply-to: <20210917020417.GE18465@mcvoy.com> References: <202109161934.18GJYFsl881498@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210916194103.GK26820@mcvoy.com> <58BCBB10-A303-41C0-8620-992B107786BB@pobox.com> <202109170110.18H1ABL63319807@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210917012847.GD18465@mcvoy.com> <202109170140.18H1elie3320978@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20210917020417.GE18465@mcvoy.com> Comments: In-reply-to Larry McVoy message dated "Thu, 16 Sep 2021 19:04:17 -0700." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3323073.1631845281.1@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2021 19:21:26 -0700 X-JON-SPAM: local delivery Subject: Re: [TUHS] ATC/OSDI'21 joint keynote: It's Time for Operating Systems to Rediscover Hardware (Timothy Roscoe) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Larry McVoy writes: > > You do you, I had undiagnosed ADD so partys in college were just an > awkward cringe fest for me. Looking backwards, now that I've figured > that out, yeah, I can see it, sort of, if I knew then what I know now. > > I was pretty committed to learning in college. I'm not trying to judge > or anything, it was just such a fun focussed time for me, I'd happily > give up a party (where I was gonna get nothing) for a few hours on slovax > where the BSD source was. > > Details aside, I think we both self identify as engineers and love it. OK, we're getting pretty far afield from UNIX. Probably wasn't using the word "party" in the traditional sense - of the drugs, sex, and rock-n-roll college was consumed by the last two. BSD wasn't a thing when I was in school; I do have a memory of coming in to work at BTL after dinner one evening when Ken was walking out the door with mag tapes under his arm on his way to Berkeley for sabbatical. I got to play with computers and UNIX at BTL, college was building and operating radio stations. Jon