From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3699 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2021 17:56:42 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 16 Nov 2021 17:56:42 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C792D9C87F; Wed, 17 Nov 2021 03:56:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7279C841; Wed, 17 Nov 2021 03:54:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D457F9C841; Wed, 17 Nov 2021 03:54:17 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (fourwinds.com [63.64.179.162]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F0269C83D for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2021 03:54:17 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 1AGHsGjU929908 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 09:54:16 -0800 Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (jon@localhost) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.16.1/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 1AGHsGsN929905 for ; Tue, 16 Nov 2021 09:54:16 -0800 Message-Id: <202111161754.1AGHsGsN929905@darkstar.fourwinds.com> From: Jon Steinhart To: TUHS main list In-reply-to: References: Comments: In-reply-to Douglas McIlroy message dated "Tue, 16 Nov 2021 12:00:52 -0500." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <929903.1637085256.1@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 09:54:16 -0800 X-JON-SPAM: local delivery Subject: Re: [TUHS] Book Recommendation [ reallly inscrutable languages ] X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Douglas McIlroy writes: > APL is a fascinating invention, but can be so compact as to be > inscrutable. (I confess not to have practiced APL enough to become > fluent.) In the same vein, Haskell's powerful higher-level functions > make middling fragments of code very clear, but can compress large > code to opacity. Jeremy Gibbons, a high priest of functional > programming, even wrote a paper about deconstructing such wonders for > improved readability. Wasn't Perl created to fill this void?