From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 11017 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2021 00:32:29 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 27 Nov 2021 00:32:29 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 875469CEB0; Sat, 27 Nov 2021 10:32:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E759CE5D; Sat, 27 Nov 2021 10:30:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 5B8E09CE5D; Sat, 27 Nov 2021 10:30:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4062994942 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 2021 10:30:07 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id D2CFF35E143; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 16:30:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 16:30:06 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Dennis Boone Message-ID: <20211127003006.GK19525@mcvoy.com> References: <0ABB7ECD-049B-4993-938F-82BC924E0F39@gmail.com> <20211127002307.C6E3A2B6CEC@yagi.h-net.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20211127002307.C6E3A2B6CEC@yagi.h-net.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] PL/I stuff - was: Book Recommendation X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 07:23:07PM -0500, Dennis Boone wrote: > > In my experience 9 track tapes were not guaranteed to be readable after > > some interval. In fact, a standard operations procedure was to copy > > important tapes to new media periodically. > > There are always ways in which your backups can go wrong and not be > readable, and I'm not arguing that here. > > But 9 track tapes have turned out to be pretty spectacularly long-lived. > I've personally read tapes that were stored for 30+ years in > unconditioned spaces. Contrast that with the write only exabyte tapes. I lost some stuff to those.