From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17911 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2022 20:16:04 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 Jan 2022 20:16:04 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A94149CFFD; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 06:16:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1796D9CFC8; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 06:15:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B97A59CFC8; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 06:15:45 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (fourwinds.com [63.64.179.162]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A810E9C78F for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 06:15:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 20BKFhgq2355403 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:15:43 -0800 Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (jon@localhost) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.16.1/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 20BKFhWT2355400 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:15:43 -0800 Message-Id: <202201112015.20BKFhWT2355400@darkstar.fourwinds.com> From: Jon Steinhart To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org In-reply-to: <202201110857.20B8v9vB020861@freefriends.org> References: <20211231234039.GU31637@mcvoy.com> <20220101005605.GL75481@eureka.lemis.com> <20220101031511.GB8135@mcvoy.com> <20220111015901.GE25103@eureka.lemis.com> <4409b91cd794867d@orthanc.ca> <20220111024218.GE3441@mcvoy.com> <20220111051247.GC61872@eureka.lemis.com> <202201110857.20B8v9vB020861@freefriends.org> Comments: In-reply-to arnold@skeeve.com message dated "Tue, 11 Jan 2022 01:57:09 -0700." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2355398.1641932143.1@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:15:43 -0800 X-JON-SPAM: local delivery Subject: Re: [TUHS] Demise of TeX and groff (was: roff(7)) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" arnold@skeeve.com writes: > The DocBook conversion make it easy for them to generate HTML so > that books could be put on CD and browsed with a web browser. > I believe that was the main motivation. Having been through this sort of stuff fairly recently, I wrote a short script that converted my troff macros into OpenOffice XML format because my publisher wanted Word. As I think I mentioned earlier, I also had a script that converted pic into SVG so that it could be included in Word docs. There were two difficulties. First, while I could have SVG pics, I had to insert them into the doc manually, couldn't figure how to do that in the XML. Second was that I ended up sending PDFs of the tables to one of the layout people as I couldn't come up with a decent way to convert those. An interesting aspect of this is that I grew up on the simple layout that was easy to do in tbl which is hard to do in Word as its tables are overly gaudy. The big thing missing from *roff from a publishing point of view is a good way to make comments and respond to them. Kind of a must-have when working with human (not text) editors. Jon