From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 19343 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2022 20:27:24 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 Jan 2022 20:27:24 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 6740B9CFFD; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 06:27:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D589CFF0; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 06:26:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 045A19CFD2; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 06:26:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (fourwinds.com [63.64.179.162]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B588E9CFCA for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 06:26:13 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 20BKQDKd2356245 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:26:13 -0800 Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (jon@localhost) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.16.1/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 20BKQC9r2356242 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:26:13 -0800 Message-Id: <202201112026.20BKQC9r2356242@darkstar.fourwinds.com> From: Jon Steinhart To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org In-reply-to: <20220111202241.GZ3441@mcvoy.com> References: <20211231234039.GU31637@mcvoy.com> <20220101005605.GL75481@eureka.lemis.com> <20220101031511.GB8135@mcvoy.com> <20220111015901.GE25103@eureka.lemis.com> <4409b91cd794867d@orthanc.ca> <20220111024218.GE3441@mcvoy.com> <20220111051247.GC61872@eureka.lemis.com> <202201110857.20B8v9vB020861@freefriends.org> <202201112015.20BKFhWT2355400@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20220111202241.GZ3441@mcvoy.com> Comments: In-reply-to Larry McVoy message dated "Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:22:41 -0800." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2356240.1641932772.1@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 12:26:12 -0800 X-JON-SPAM: local delivery Subject: Re: [TUHS] Demise of TeX and groff (was: roff(7)) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Larry McVoy writes: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 12:15:43PM -0800, Jon Steinhart wrote: > > The big thing missing from *roff from a publishing point of view is > > a good way to make comments and respond to them. Kind of a must-have > > when working with human (not text) editors. > > Source code control for the win. Well, you're correct, but not practical with human editors. I'm not talking about revision history, I'm talking about the ability to easily highlight a portion of text and comment "did you mean foo?" and so on. That part of the production process feedback loop is missing. Of course, with *roff one could mostly produce one's own stuff without needing human editors and a production staff.