From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 31808 invoked from network); 12 Jan 2022 16:48:59 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 12 Jan 2022 16:48:59 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2B1B09D021; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 02:48:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F489CFCA; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 02:48:42 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A89709CFCA; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 02:48:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: from sdaoden.eu (sdaoden.eu [217.144.132.164]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEF299C78F for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 02:48:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: from kent.sdaoden.eu (kent.sdaoden.eu [10.5.0.2]) by sdaoden.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 643B416057; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:48:37 +0100 (CET) Received: by kent.sdaoden.eu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7C3A32D35; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:48:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:48:35 +0100 Author: Steffen Nurpmeso From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: Mary Ann Horton Message-ID: <20220112164835.Kj4fy%steffen@sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: <695e2970-00f2-ab55-8c1a-9fbd03add77f@mhorton.net> References: <20211231234039.GU31637@mcvoy.com> <20220101005605.GL75481@eureka.lemis.com> <20220101031511.GB8135@mcvoy.com> <20220110203300.GY3441@mcvoy.com> <695e2970-00f2-ab55-8c1a-9fbd03add77f@mhorton.net> Mail-Followup-To: Mary Ann Horton , tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.23-207-g7f6b3a0acb OpenPGP: id=EE19E1C1F2F7054F8D3954D8308964B51883A0DD; url=https://ftp.sdaoden.eu/steffen.asc; preference=signencrypt BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. Subject: Re: [TUHS] TeX and groff (was: roff(7)) X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Mary Ann Horton wrote in <695e2970-00f2-ab55-8c1a-9fbd03add77f@mhorton.net>: |I recall attending a TeX lecture by Knuth around 1981. He said he wasn't |satisfied with the character layout from other formatting programs, |which drove him to write TeX. He illustrated in great detail the kerning |and exact placement of the font characters next to each other. I |couldn't tell the difference, but clearly it was very important to him. |He wanted his documents to look perfect. I find with proof-reading roff provides very pleasant results; the german translation of K&R Programming in C (2nd Ed., ANSI C; so many credits to people on this list!!!) was produced in roff (Liangs hyphenation, Kernighans pic, Lesks tbl, Kernighan and Cherrys eqn, XENIX-adjusted d-i troff of ELAN; November 1989), it could not look better. I personally feel peeved when my documents do not look acceptable, but, other than that, from computer documents i do miss the spiritual, the contemplative and meditative side that calligraphically beautiful documents represent. Just recently for example a Thora that was saved from the flames reappeared here in Germany, it would be yet another massive loss of culture if this became binary or quantum. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)