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From: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: TUHS main list <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
Subject: Re: [TUHS] FYI: Internet Old Farts Club
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 18:36:41 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220129023641.GL16452@mcvoy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YfSlWDTqFqVbNPkF@mit.edu>

On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 09:24:24PM -0500, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 05:59:52PM -0800, Charles Anthony wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, 17:56 Jan Schaumann via TUHS <tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > > Kinda feel like being an Old Fart and joining a
> > > Facebook group are mutually exclusive.  Now if it was
> > > a newsgroup, perhaps, or a FidoNet BBS, ...
> > >
> > 
> > We can do 'forum' on Multics.
> 
> There's a re-implementation of 'forum' called Discuss[1] that was
> implemented by the MIT Student Information Board.  It has a 'forum'
> feel, and the ss (subsystem) library provides the CLI interface which
> is reminiscent of Multics forum.
> 
> [1] http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.31.8576&rep=rep1&type=pdf
> 
> The ss and et (error_table) libraries that were originally written for
> the Discuss system are still in use today as part of Linux's ext2/3/4
> userspace utilities, e2fsprogs.  (The debugfs program uses the ss
> library, as does a few regression test drivers for some unit tests).
> The ss library is also used for the Kerberos v5 Administration
> Server.
> 
> 						- Ted

It's amazing how long stuff lives, very cool.  Just like the runoff
thread, stuff goes back to Multics and even earlier.  Good ideas die
hard.

I also think that any idea of Facebook group for old Unix people is dead
in the water.  I can only speak for myself but hell will freeze over
before I have a Facebook account, they have engineers that target kids,
they have to pay more because people are ashamed to work there.  It
just makes me sad to think that technology is being used like Facebook
does.  It's just my opinion, but the world would be a better place if
Facebook ceased to exist.

If we need another place for old farts to hang out, there are many.
I like groups.io, it's free for most stuff, it's super easy to be
a moderator, I moderate 12 groups there and am a member of a bunch
more.  What they call groups, we would call an email list with a
bunch of knobs that help keep things sane.

--lm

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-29  2:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-27  0:36 Rich Morin
2022-01-27  1:55 ` Jan Schaumann via TUHS
2022-01-29  1:59   ` Charles Anthony
2022-01-29  2:24     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2022-01-29  2:36       ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2022-01-29  8:48         ` Andy Kosela
2022-01-29 17:15           ` Jon Steinhart
2022-01-29 17:20           ` Seth J. Morabito
2022-02-01  2:12           ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2022-02-01  2:21             ` Steve Nickolas
2022-02-01  2:23             ` Larry McVoy
2022-02-01  2:31               ` Steve Nickolas
2022-02-01  2:51               ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2022-02-01 18:19               ` Clem Cole
2022-02-01 18:24                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2022-02-01 12:45             ` Blake McBride
2022-01-29 17:20         ` Blake McBride
2022-01-30  1:20         ` Adam Thornton
2022-01-30  2:10           ` Will Senn
2022-01-27  2:07 ` Grant Taylor via TUHS
2022-01-27  2:40   ` Larry McVoy
2022-01-27 21:11 ` Tomasz Rola
2022-01-27  2:52 Norman Wilson
2022-01-27 23:20 ` Nemo Nusquam

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