From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 26192 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2022 19:37:42 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Feb 2022 19:37:42 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 788AD9D4EE; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 05:37:38 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF47F9D02E; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 05:37:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 37F5D9D02E; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 05:37:30 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (fourwinds.com [63.64.179.162]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 545A99D02D for ; Mon, 7 Feb 2022 05:37:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 216JbR4c3504449 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2022 11:37:27 -0800 Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (jon@localhost) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.16.1/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 216JbRPT3504444 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2022 11:37:27 -0800 Message-Id: <202202061937.216JbRPT3504444@darkstar.fourwinds.com> From: Jon Steinhart To: TUHS main list In-reply-to: References: <1644006490.2458.78.camel@mni.thm.de> <20220206005609.GG3045@mcvoy.com> <21015c2c-2652-bbc3-dbd7-ad3c31f485a2@gmail.com> <20220206141558.GO3045@mcvoy.com> <202202061927.216JRAk43504029@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Comments: In-reply-to Warner Losh message dated "Sun, 06 Feb 2022 12:33:17 -0700." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3504442.1644176247.1@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2022 11:37:27 -0800 X-JON-SPAM: local delivery Subject: Re: [TUHS] more about Brian... [ really GC vs malloc/free languages ] X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Warner Losh writes: > I personally like having the choices. I don't want to be bothered with > malloc/free when I'm hacking together an awk or python script. On > the other hand, when it has to run fast or do lots of TPS inside a kernel, > I really don't want somebody else deciding when a good time to take > a 'hiccup' in performance is... It all depends on what I'm doing since > using techniques from the latter to optimize the former is a waste of > time. The whole reason I do a GC'd language is to write what I'm writing > faster with less hassle... > > Some days I'm Dan Healy, some days I'm waving diagonal pliers around... :) Completely agree with you. I do the same. But I actually know how to use those diagonal pliers; I don't want someone who doesn't know what they're doing to start snipping things. Jon