From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 10227 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2022 14:36:05 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Mar 2022 14:36:05 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id C60E49D687; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 00:36:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80BA9D684; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 00:35:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 2AF3A9D684; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 00:35:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B4C19D662 for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 00:35:31 +1000 (AEST) X-Envelope-From: arnold@skeeve.com Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 22TEZ9cO021440 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 29 Mar 2022 08:35:09 -0600 Received: (from arnold@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 22TEZ8RB021438; Tue, 29 Mar 2022 08:35:08 -0600 From: arnold@skeeve.com Message-Id: <202203291435.22TEZ8RB021438@freefriends.org> X-Authentication-Warning: frenzy.freefriends.org: arnold set sender to arnold@skeeve.com using -f Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 08:35:08 -0600 To: clemc@ccc.com, andrew@humeweb.com References: <20220328210356.GA18426@minnie.tuhs.org> <97CCE4E5-0445-4EB0-8CAE-3C75BBF72CFE@iitbombay.org> <20220328232344.GC60301@eureka.lemis.com> <19FC5DAF-A4C7-4EE0-BF34-91B340910641@iitbombay.org> <11FBF445-4956-427E-8751-60BF5CA88116@serissa.com> <34e2e376-ab10-7125-ef0b-a28538e58d73@technologists.com> <202203290840.22T8euk9028535@freefriends.org> <8CD4B839-ED11-4A97-8D9A-65F78A78FB43@humeweb.com> In-Reply-To: <8CD4B839-ED11-4A97-8D9A-65F78A78FB43@humeweb.com> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old screen editors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Cool! I bet this was it! It was on a System 4 system. The commands were entered at the top of the screen. I remember almost nothing else about it. Is there any chance you still have the source? Thanks, Arnold Andrew Hume wrote: > se? > > this may be a consequence for using such a bland name for a screen editor, > but i wrote a screen editor called ’se’ in 1981-83, just after we had moved > from piscataway to murray hill. > > it was part of an effort to do office automation style products for Unix, > and came in around the time Unix transitioned from System III through > System 4 through the early days of System V. > > my se was not very good, but i did have denis ritchie as an early tester. > > > On Mar 29, 2022, at 6:45 AM, Clem Cole wrote: > > > > Arnold, I agree, I do remember seeing it on what I think was the PWB 4.0 tape. IMHO: it was before cshell, termcap, vi et al was released inside of the rest of the Bell System and there seemed to be sometimes "SW from BSD be bad/crude" 'tude. IIRC ber and mmp must have had it running on the Marx's brothers systems in Whippany. But he had vi, so I personally never used it. > > > > @Mary Ann - this would have been around the time you were in Columbus and starting the terminfo work. Do you have any memories? > > > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 5:29 AM > wrote: > > Did anyone within the Bell System ever use a screen editor called 'se'? > > (NOT related to the Georgia Tech se editor [se-editor.org ]). > > > > I used this on a USG UNIX 4.0 system ~ 1982 when I did some contract > > programming at Southern Bell. I think it was originally written for > > the Vax but it had been squeezed to run on a PDP-11/70 also. > > > > I've mentioned this in the past, but it seems to been covered over > > by the sands of time, and that nobody else ever used it. > > > > Arnold >