From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 19033 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2022 08:47:52 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 30 Mar 2022 08:47:52 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 367949D6AA; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 18:47:47 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5D49D04B; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 18:45:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id A07FD9D04B; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 18:45:33 +1000 (AEST) X-Greylist: delayed 495 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at minnie.tuhs.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 18:45:29 AEST Received: from relay05.pair.com (relay05.pair.com [216.92.24.67]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CAE159D02D for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 18:45:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: from orac.inputplus.co.uk (unknown [87.112.27.71]) by relay05.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9411A18E5; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 04:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orac.inputplus.co.uk (orac.inputplus.co.uk [IPv6:::1]) by orac.inputplus.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB43D21D9C; Wed, 30 Mar 2022 09:37:12 +0100 (BST) To: Lawrence Stewart mail-followup-to: tuhs@tuhs.org From: Ralph Corderoy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-reply-to: <11FBF445-4956-427E-8751-60BF5CA88116@serissa.com> References: <20220328210356.GA18426@minnie.tuhs.org> <97CCE4E5-0445-4EB0-8CAE-3C75BBF72CFE@iitbombay.org> <20220328232344.GC60301@eureka.lemis.com> <19FC5DAF-A4C7-4EE0-BF34-91B340910641@iitbombay.org> <11FBF445-4956-427E-8751-60BF5CA88116@serissa.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 09:37:12 +0100 Message-Id: <20220330083712.BB43D21D9C@orac.inputplus.co.uk> Subject: Re: [TUHS] Old screen editors X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Hi Lawrence, > At some point we got ex/vi, but before that we got the “Rand Editor” > re, which was a perfectly functional screen editor, if you squinted a > bit. > > Does anyone here know the place of re in the history? RAND's re from 1974 had become Ned, for New Editor by 1977 when Ned's author, Walt Bilofsky, later founder of The Software Toolworks, wrote RAND report R2176. https://www.rand.org/pubs/reports/R2176.html Over the past few years Ned, a text editor utilizing the full capabilities of the CRT display, has been under development and in use at The Rand Corporation... The Ned editor runs on the PDP-11 series of computers under the UNIX operating system. It uses a CRT display to provide a two-dimensional window into a text file... ...rectangular portions of text may be opened, deleted, and moved about... The set of operations may be expanded by user-provided or system-provided text-processing programs... The screen may be divided into several editing windows... Chapter 3 has the history of IDA-CRD → Yale Editor ‘E’ → RAND editor ‘re’ → Ned. -- Cheers, Ralph.