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Author: Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu>
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Douglas McIlroy wrote in
 <CAKH6PiXBEZPyjUk=DD8moA8ZnA2kpfk=Z7+6WwckSQb5HPUX3Q@mail.gmail.com>:
 |How would you wish to interact with
 |        /bin/bash >file

While the POSIX standard defines an interactive shell as one with
STDIN and STDERR being a terminal, i think the NetBSD shell did
not until not too long (< half a decade?) ago, and the mailer you
were using for a long time does not to this day.  (Unfortunately.)

  APPLICATION USAGE
  Standard input and standard error are the files that determine
  whether a shell is interactive when -i is not specified. For
  example:

    sh > file
  and:
    sh 2> file

  create interactive and non-interactive shells,
  respectively. Although both accept terminal input, the results of
  error conditions are different, as described in Section 2.8.1 (on
  page 2363); in the second example a redirection error encountered
  by a special built-in utility aborts the shell.

--steffen
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