From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 5825 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2022 15:48:01 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 8 Apr 2022 15:48:01 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id ED7579D6EE; Sat, 9 Apr 2022 01:47:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F849D680; Sat, 9 Apr 2022 01:45:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id B944E9D680; Sat, 9 Apr 2022 01:45:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (fourwinds.com [63.64.179.162]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 504D59D665 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 2022 01:45:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 238FjSxL3781667 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2022 08:45:28 -0700 Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (jon@localhost) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.16.1/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 238FjSGv3781664 for ; Fri, 8 Apr 2022 08:45:28 -0700 Message-Id: <202204081545.238FjSGv3781664@darkstar.fourwinds.com> From: Jon Steinhart To: TUHS main list In-reply-to: References: <7wh774dtvi.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> Comments: In-reply-to Dan Cross message dated "Fri, 08 Apr 2022 09:59:26 -0400." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3781662.1649432728.1@darkstar.fourwinds.com> Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2022 08:45:28 -0700 X-JON-SPAM: local delivery Subject: Re: [TUHS] Interesting commentary on Unix from Multicians. X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Dan Cross writes: > Bell Labs dropping out of Multics in 1969 was, of course, before Unix. This > raises the question, what did Bell Labs use instead? I imagine 360s and > either traditional batch processing or TSS or something? Someone who was older than me at the time like Heinz probably knows more than I do. My recollection is that many departments had their own random systems as minicomputers took over. We used 516-TSS on a Honeywell DDP-516/ I have no idea what Max Matthews ran on his DDP-224 but would guess that it was all custom stuff. I believe that the behemoth GE-635 aka Honeywell 6070 in the computer center ran GECOS. I don't know if that machine was originally there for the MULTICS project.