From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3394 invoked from network); 11 May 2022 17:36:05 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 May 2022 17:36:05 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 4B6279CB44; Thu, 12 May 2022 03:36:03 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F119BA54; Thu, 12 May 2022 03:35:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 296AC9BA54; Thu, 12 May 2022 03:35:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D394E9BA39 for ; Thu, 12 May 2022 03:35:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 6F1C435E0B7; Wed, 11 May 2022 10:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 10:35:18 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Paul Winalski Message-ID: <20220511173518.GF17911@mcvoy.com> References: <1505232b-86bd-0d65-52c7-c8d19bd0663c@mhorton.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Subject: Re: [TUHS] First Unix-like OSes not derived from AT&T code? X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: TUHS main list Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 12:44:10PM -0400, Paul Winalski wrote: > Many of the Ultrix > engineers had a religious belief in keeping Unix pure and > platform-independent. Things available on only one hardware platform > were perceived as "vendor traps" and to be avoided. Not unique to DEC, I very much had that attitude at Sun and wasn't alone. As a side effort from making SunOS POSIX compliant, I wrote lint libraries for BSD, Sys III, Sys V, POSIX, and I don't remember what else. The idea was that you could use Sun as a dev platform but lint your code against whatever platform you wanted to target. It was misguided, I bet I can count on one hand the number of people that used any of those, but I hated vendor traps as much as DEC, maybe more.